MORE BREAK INS MOUNTAIN VILL

[scotian007]

Thanks for the PM, lets see if we can get something done.

I think having a security guard is the best deterrent. That and maybe buying some taser guns from the markets in Bangkok!

Alarms are good but not as effective as having someone there. Also I hope this thread doesnt turn into a "i have an alarm business" thread.

Any more Mountain Vill residents out there - speak up! We need to work collectively on getting a solution to this.

[sandman67]

This is the best outcome for all parties BUT I get the feeling that there is some reluctance by some residents to share this cost. The cost of employing 2 or 3 security men night time would be minimal.

and about as effective as a chocolate fire guard. Thai security guards spend about 90% of a shift asleep from what I see about.

Also, if they are so damn effective, how come the break ins continue after they are in place, as evidenced by other theft related threads? Only useful once a burglar has been detected......as they are usually busy watching tv or sleeping.

Point two: A break in is detected and the alarm is sent out prompting your ex copper guards to wake up, get off their arses and investigate the hulabaloo. Congratulations, you now have a couple of very nervous half asleep trigger happy armed Thai men wandering about. That would be me feeling safe and secure....NOT.

Get alarms and detectors....they dont sleep, they dont watch TV and they work.

[miked]

Also I hope this thread doesn't turn into a "i have an alarm business" thread.

firstly if that remark was aimed at SJ i think it was in very poor taste and should be withdrawn.

with that out of the way a few pointers on security because some of you need it. with window bars they should be fitted inside the house. why do you fit them on the outside and make it easy for the burglar.
secondly with an alarm system a cordless system only offers a basic level of security. it will probably be supplied with 2 or 3 motion detectors and the same amount of contact switches. you will not have individual protection for every window and door, several points of entry being covered by the same motion detector. you can of course add to the system but cordless detectors and switches are expensive. they also are powered by battery and this is a regular item to replace. it's a basic level of security, easy to install, not my recommendation but better than nothing.
now if you live in a bungalow whats the point of fixing the external siren to the wall of the house.?? the burglar stands on his mates shoulders and sprays expanding foam filler into the siren box, and that's the end of that. you now have a silent alarm system. with a 2 storey house the box can be mounted out of harms way.
imo a wired alarm system is a much better choice. far cheaper than cordless. yes you will see a few wires and its an all day job to install by an average DIY handyman. it very cheap expanded to expand and is maintenance free. and one last comment, i don't sell alarms.
miked

[Super Joe]

Good info miked, just one point, the control panel inside the house also has a built-in siren which goes off simultaneously with the external one. Albeit less dB's but still a fair old sound.

Cheers,
SJ

[miked]

yes i have fitted both for my self in the U.K. and for most people the wireless alarm would be perfect.
if i lived in a bungalow i would erect a concrete post in the garden and have the siren out of reach, and have security cameras on the post. my thinking is make it hard for them and so they go next door instead, so you don't want me as your next door neighbour.
miked

[scotian007]

Guys/Gals

This is the first time I have posted here, so I have no idea who SJ is. I have though seen a lot of talk and promotion of alarms on the site, hence my comment.

I'm a concerned resident and I'm hoping the thread helps in getting other residents together to take action.

[sjpthsuk]

I stay in a different complex, and having had two break-ins in less than a year (the last time people on the complex saw people at the house but they thought we were having work done in our absence).
Recently we installed an electric fence around the property perimeter. For safety reasons, i ensured that the fence was canted into my property so that any potential intruder would be reaching over my fence to touch the fence (i.e. he was starting to encroach into the property). This has proved to be very effective so far, even the policeman that visits the property to ensure things are in order has reservations about it, and keeps clear of it.
We also have metal frames on all doors and windows (fitted on the inside), as well as all doors/windows having a wi-fi sensor burgular alarm system. Add two cameras inside, and one outside with sensor lamps and there you have it.
If anyone wants to have a look at the fence or find out more details, please PM me, so that we don't go off topic.....
Steve

[JimmyGreaves]

What's the cost of these electric fences?

[caller]

Recently we installed an electric fence around the property perimeter. For safety reasons, i ensured that the fence was canted into my property so that any potential intruder would be reaching over my fence to touch the fence (i.e. he was starting to encroach into the property). This has proved to be very effective so far, even the policeman that visits the property to ensure things are in order has reservations about it, and keeps clear of it.
We also have metal frames on all doors and windows (fitted on the inside), as well as all doors/windows having a wi-fi sensor burgular alarm system. Add two cameras inside, and one outside with sensor lamps and there you have it.Steve

Is this real? Is this what is needed to live in Hua Hin - seriously?

If so, is it worth it?

I had no security in London other than whatever locks were on the doors, likewise where I am now, except for I rarely lock.

I really cannot imagine having to live under such circumstances - it sounds like a state of siege?!

[Big Boy]

To me it makes a statement to the criminal world, "I've got something in here worth stealing."

[migrant]

Recently we installed an electric fence around the property perimeter. For safety reasons, i ensured that the fence was canted into my property so that any potential intruder would be reaching over my fence to touch the fence (i.e. he was starting to encroach into the property). This has proved to be very effective so far, even the policeman that visits the property to ensure things are in order has reservations about it, and keeps clear of it.
We also have metal frames on all doors and windows (fitted on the inside), as well as all doors/windows having a wi-fi sensor burgular alarm system. Add two cameras inside, and one outside with sensor lamps and there you have it.Steve

Is this real? Is this what is needed to live in Hua Hin - seriously?

If so, is it worth it?

I had no security in London other than whatever locks were on the doors, likewise where I am now, except for I rarely lock.

I really cannot imagine having to live under such circumstances - it sounds like a state of siege?!

Here in "wealthy" southern California most all homes have alarm systems hooked up to police. Many have iron barred windows, and the security precautions go up from there.

It does seem like many live their life as in that state of siege. When I was a kid I lived in a "bad" section of Detroit, but played in front of the house day and night.

Now, hear in the "nice" sections, you rarely see any kids playing in front, they are all behind gates and walls.

[miked]

sjpthsuk wrote:
Recently we installed an electric fence around the property perimeter. For safety reasons, i ensured that the fence was canted into my property so that any potential intruder would be reaching over my fence to touch the fence (i.e. he was starting to encroach into the property). This has proved to be very effective so far, even the policeman that visits the property to ensure things are in order has reservations about it, and keeps clear of it.
We also have metal frames on all doors and windows (fitted on the inside), as well as all doors/windows having a wi-fi sensor burgular alarm system. Add two cameras inside, and one outside with sensor lamps and there you have it.Steve

Caller wrote
Is this real? Is this what is needed to live in Hua Hin - seriously?



yes this is exactly what is needed to live in Hua Hin. open your
eyes and ears to what is happening around you.
miked

[magnum]

sjpthsuk wrote:
Recently we installed an electric fence around the property perimeter. For safety reasons, i ensured that the fence was canted into my property so that any potential intruder would be reaching over my fence to touch the fence (i.e. he was starting to encroach into the property). This has proved to be very effective so far, even the policeman that visits the property to ensure things are in order has reservations about it, and keeps clear of it.
We also have metal frames on all doors and windows (fitted on the inside), as well as all doors/windows having a wi-fi sensor burgular alarm system. Add two cameras inside, and one outside with sensor lamps and there you have it.Steve

Caller wrote
Is this real? Is this what is needed to live in Hua Hin - seriously?



yes this is exactly what is needed to live in Hua Hin. open your
eyes and ears to what is happening around you.
miked

Hua hin is like anywhere else just use a bit of common sense,dont flaunt your wealth,had what security your happy with and enjoy your life out there.Had house 5 years
one steal grid stolen from yard I am not going to get paranoid.

[PeteC]

A suggestion if everyone hasn't done it already. Google "home security tips" or "home security advice" and there is a wealth of information.

Yes, the articles are primarily based upon how to secure a home in the USA or UK or EU. That's good because the thieves are smarter there, more aggressive and have their own technology on how to enter a house that burglars here do not have, yet.

It's a worthwhile exercise in order to build your own personal knowledge base on the subject. Pete

[Big Boy]

miked,

Out interest, do you have emergency generator backup? It seems to me that the burglar simply has to cut your power supply, and you could be vulnerable.