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Need some help in locating a company that does sand washing as need to get a few ideas about designs and colours.

Rough idea of costs I'm likely to expect would also be useful

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Make sure you get someone who knows what they are doing, and make sure the cement underneath was poured (and vibrated, something few Thai cement workers do) properly, or you're in for a nightmare of cracks and crumbles...

I'll never use sandwash again... :(
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hhfarang wrote:Make sure you get someone who knows what they are doing, and make sure the cement underneath was poured (and vibrated, something few Thai cement workers do) properly, or you're in for a nightmare of cracks and crumbles...

I'll never use sandwash again... :(
hmmmmm

Got me thinking as I've heard that it can be problematic.

HHF where do you experience the problems?

I need a meter path around the house and about a vertical meter that defines the crawl space. This will get a bit of foot traffic. Was also thinking about doing 10 meter * 7 meter drive way coming off the road into a carport but was maybe thinking tiles, not sure, arghhhh decisions decisions
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The meter path around the house should be no problem. We have that and it's ok as there isn't too much weight on it. Longer paths separated from the house through the yard have cracked badly and I made the mistake of doing a sandwash driveway. It can't hold up under the weight of vehicles (unless it and the cement underneath are very well done, mine wasn't!). You are smart to use tiles or brick pavers on the driveway.
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hhfarang wrote:The meter path around the house should be no problem. We have that and it's ok as there isn't too much weight on it. Longer paths separated from the house through the yard have cracked badly and I made the mistake of doing a sandwash driveway. It can't hold up under the weight of vehicles (unless it and the cement underneath are very well done, mine wasn't!). You are smart to use tiles or brick pavers on the driveway.
Thanks for that, good food for thought.

Now need to find a supplier hmmmmm
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For drive and path ways how about stamped concrete by Winflor http://www.winflor.com/company.htm

Not cheap at approx 600 baht per m2 but very durable.

Multiple patterns and colours available.

http://www.winflor.com/patterns.htm

For an example visit the Hyatt Hotel and have a look at their drive way.
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Pricewise sandwashing seems to range from 250 - 350 Baht/m2. A premium added for bitty areas like pool footpath and steps.

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I am not a fan of sandwash as it picks up grime and mould simply because of it's texture .There again it would do the same in any country .If you are using it pay the right money to get it done properly and sealed with a laquer similar to unibond .Available gloss or matt .If you knock down the cost you will knock down the quality .That goes pretty much for everything in my experience here .If you bash the builder down on price they will cut corners .If you ask for a 5m baht villa to be done for 1m they WILL do it but you cannot expect it to be anything other than a much lower quality .

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Thanks All. However still not got any idea where to go for supplies or builders who are experienced in doing this.
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hhfarang wrote:The meter path around the house should be no problem. We have that and it's ok as there isn't too much weight on it. Longer paths separated from the house through the yard have cracked badly and I made the mistake of doing a sandwash driveway. It can't hold up under the weight of vehicles (unless it and the cement underneath are very well done, mine wasn't!). You are smart to use tiles or brick pavers on the driveway.
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When we had our drive put in at the farm, I insisted that they dug out to a depth of 250 mm, compacted the soil, then got them to lay a 50 mm layer of "blinding concrete", which was left un trowled to form a good key for the next layer.
When that was hard (3 days later) I then got them to lay down a layer of concrete approx 50mm thick on top of which they layed a proper steel mesh sheet (not the rubbish they make up themselves on site) with bars 8mm thick, followed by another layer of concrete of 100mm then another layer of steel mesh and finally another 50mm of concrete.

I made sure that the concrete was mixed with a "slump" of not more than 50mm and a water reducing agent was also added to the mix to reduce the water/cement ratio (not mixed like soup as they normally do, as water is a killer for good concrete) and well vibrated to give a solid finish.

The foot paths were done in a similar fashion, but the concrete above blinding layer was 150mm total with only one layer of mesh, placed 50mm below finished path level.

When doing it this way don't forget to put in the required expansion joints and to cover all wet concrete with black plastic sheeting to keep it from drying out to quickly.

I was determined that the drive was not going to crack, as we had 2 big SUVs parked on it most of the time. 6 years on and no sign of a crack.

I think it was well worth the extra costs for peace of mind.
Do it the cheap Thai way and you will end up with a patterned drive of crazy paving. :(

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A pal of mine when to great extremes.

He extended the piles under his house out along and underneath the driveway.
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malcolminthemiddle wrote:A pal of mine when to great extremes.

He extended the piles under his house out along and underneath the driveway.
Is this your pal? :shock: Pete :cheers:

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No, but this is.


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That was a Harley when he got on it. :wink:
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Post by beachyhead »

One tip if you decide on sand wash and that is dont do big areas in the same colour. For example if you decide on the gold colour as your main colour try and break it up into squares with maybe black borders, that way if you have problems you can easily replace one section as you can never patch repair at a latter date.
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