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Christmas time trip to four countries

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On my Christmas vacation I had planned a trip to four countries: China, Laos, Malaysia and Indonesia. I wanted to see places which I had thought of visiting for a long time. Indonesia was an exception here but as it was easy to do that, I added it to the itinerary.

Shenzhen

After finishing work, I headed for Shenzhen, China, just across the bay from Macau. It was only an hour’s ferry trip but as Xi Jinping was visiting Macau, there were traffic jams, and it took me a long time to get to the ferry terminal. Luckily, I was not in a hurry as my plane would leave the next morning from Shenzhen airport.

At the terminal I didn’t have to wait for a long time before the next ferry left for Shenzhen. The trip takes you under the Zhuhai/Macau – Hong Kong bridge, which is almost 60 km long. Once I was through the customs, I took a taxi to my hotel, which was near the airport. The taxis are very cheap in China and this trip that took about 40 minutes, cost me 100 Yuan, around 13 €. I took my luggage to my room and went out to find a place to eat something.

I didn’t sleep well, and I had arranged for an airport transfer at 6.00 a.m., so I felt quite tired as I hopped in the taxi. It took only about 15 minutes to get to the airport and I was through the check-in and customs fairly quickly although there were a lot of people going for their flights. After passing the customs I had a breakfast at the airport. Unlike most western airports, this one was not too expensive.
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Sounds like this is going to be an interesting report BG :thumb:
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Jinghong, Yunnan, China, day 1

The plane left 40 minutes late, which we had to wait inside the plane. I didn’t catch the reason for that. Anyway, we arrived at Jinghong around midday and I had a airport transport waiting for me to take me to my hotel.

I had a ”Fragile” sign on my backpack because I had a bottle of whisky there, it’s much cheaper in Macau than in China. However, something heavy had been thrown on top of it and I could feel and smell that the bottle had broken. Once I arrived in my room, I opened the bag and this was indeed the case. Half of my clothes stank of whisky and the backpack was full of broken glass. Not a perfect start to my trip.

The room and view were great though and I soaked my clothes and emptied the bag from broken glass and went for a walk to the surroundings of the hotel. The day time weather was very nice, around 23 C and it was a pleasure to walk around. The area has a minority people who are closely related to the Siamese and Laotians but I didn’t hear any other language but Chinese spoken in the city. However, a lot of things were similar to Thailand and Laos, for example elephant statues, the roofs of some buildings etc. They also have a water splashing festival there in April and there is a square named after that.
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I hadn’t slept much the previous night so I returned to my room quite early after having a nice duck and rice meal at the nearby shopping mall and enjoyed the view of Mekong -river (Lancang as it is called in China) from my balcony.

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Just next to my hotel was a night market area and I went to have a walk there in the evening. It was again very similar to what this kind of market would be in Thailand.
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Yes, so similar in many ways. I wonder if they were Thai durian or local grown. :cheers:
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Far cleaner and clearer than many places I remember in China from years back - not too mention far less "Foot Traffic"!

Great photo's BG - hope the "aroma" of the backpack has lessened a tad.... :D

[EDIT] One thing regarding the Market, was the (final) photo of the "sweets". This is not something I remember from Chinese markets - certainly more in the likes of Thailand and Vietnam (and maybe Kowloon). Is this something you've noticed during your travels too BG?

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PeteC wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:20 pm I wonder if they were Thai durian or local grown.....


I always seem to remember that "Chinese Durians" were only grown in Hainan - Jinghong being closer to Thailand (or Laos, Myanmar etc.). Perhaps BG can confirm? My time in China was many moons ago now....

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Is this something you've noticed during your travels too BG?
I have not come across these sweets elsewhere in China must be the influence of their "cousins" south from Jinghong.

Durians, I have no idea. I have no wish to purchase them. Back in Finland, I could immediately smell if the missus had bought durian and the only good thing smelling that was that it gave me an excuse to run to the local for the rest of the evening. :shock:
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Bamboo Grove wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:30 pm
Is this something you've noticed during your travels too BG?
I have not come across these sweets elsewhere in China must be the influence of their "cousins" south from Jinghong.
It's what I thought - thanks for the thoughts/confirmation :thumb:
Bamboo Grove wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:30 pm Durians, I have no idea. I have no wish to purchase them. Back in Finland, I could immediately smell if the missus had bought durian and the only good thing smelling that was that it gave me an excuse to run to the local for the rest of the evening. :shock:
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Jinghong, day 2
I had a train ticket from Jinghong to Luang Prabang in Laos for 23.12 and I needed to go to the station to pick up a paper ticket. Although all the train tickets within China are automatically connected to your passport and that’s all you need to get on the train, international trains still require a paper ticket as well.

So I checked how to get to the station and found out a bus route there. On the way to the bus stop, there was a small park and I went to take a look at it. Again, it reminded me so much about Thailand. I sat there for a while, watching the people. Some were singing, some dancing, some exercising, a very typical Chinese park scenery. There was also a streetside barber offering haircuts for 10 RMB, a bit more than 1€.

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I walked to the bus stop and the first bus going to the station was so full, I skipped it. I didn’t have to wait for a long time when the next came and that was almost empty. I hopped in and saw some interesting buildings on the way so I decided to visit them on my way back.

Getting the train ticket proved to be very easy but getting a taxi back to where I wanted to go wasn’t. Finally the driver understood where I wanted to go, with the help of three other taxi drivers, all wondering about the map on my phone. In the end he took me too far so I had to walk back to where I wanted to be. There were some nice buildings in that area but nothing more. So I took another bus near to the area where my hotel was. While walking back to the hotel, I noticed a shop with some wine bottles on the shelves. I went in but I then saw that it was a shop selling Russian goods which I didn’t want to buy so I walked out and went to the shopping mall of the previous day to have a meal.

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I saw a small restaurant and picked up one dish, which looked very tasty. The waiter told me, it’s really spicy and I replied, it’s ok, I like spicy food. My goodness, I couldn’t eat but just a little of the chillies in the dish but finished it otherwise. I would never have thought that the dish had more chillies than I usually saw in dishes in Thailand.
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Rest of the evening, I spent in my hotel room enjoying the night scenery.
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I love this photo, and so reminiscent of a Monet painting!

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About booking the rail ticket, do Chinese hotels not provide such a service and save you the hassle of visiting the station? When booking the train from Luang Prabang to Vientiane, we were stumped, as they only went on sale 3 days in advance, 12go, or whatever it's called, weren't really able to help, primarily because of where we were (Luang Prabang), but in the end it was as simple as asking the hotel, who sorted everything out or us. I ask as plan to do a rail trip to China next year.
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caller wrote:
About booking the rail ticket, do Chinese hotels not provide such a service and save you the hassle of visiting the station?
I didn't ask the hotel because I had booked the ticket already in October. The confirmation came two weeks before the trip (as they do in China, instead of three days as in Laos, you can book tickets two weeks in advance). When you travel within China, you don't need any tickets, your passport is your ticket. However, because this is an international train, you need a paper ticket and the company where I bought my ticket advised me to get the paper ticket at the station in Jing Hong. This proved to be very easy. So I don't know, if the hotels will do it for you.

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Jinghong day 3

For the third and final day in Jinghong I had only one destination. It’s called Manting park and it is the old royal palace area, from the time when Sipsongbanna was a semi-independent kingdom. The park wasn’t too far away from my hotel so I walked there. The area was quite large, with lots of Chinese tourists but it was pleasant to walk around. In the middle there was a lake and it was surrounded by parks, the ancient palace building, walkways, a temple area, food stalls, restaurants, shops and rest areas. I spent around 3-4 hours walking around the area before returning to my hotel. That was enough walking for one day so the rest of the time outdoors I just watched the local life. Particularly the Water Splashing square had all kinds of programs going on when the darkness set.


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Bamboo Grove wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:53 pm caller wrote:
About booking the rail ticket, do Chinese hotels not provide such a service and save you the hassle of visiting the station?
I didn't ask the hotel because I had booked the ticket already in October. The confirmation came two weeks before the trip (as they do in China, instead of three days as in Laos, you can book tickets two weeks in advance). When you travel within China, you don't need any tickets, your passport is your ticket. However, because this is an international train, you need a paper ticket and the company where I bought my ticket advised me to get the paper ticket at the station in Jing Hong. This proved to be very easy. So I don't know, if the hotels will do it for you.

I bought my ticket using a webpage called
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That's great info - thanks BG!
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Train trip Jing Hong – Luang Prabang

One of the important reasons for choosing my travel route was the Jing Hong to Luang Prabang train. I have always been a train enthusiast, and I have for example done the trans-Siberian trip Moscow-Beijing three times and once to the other direction. Also, I have travelled a lot by train in China and what little there is to travel in Thailand.

The train left Jing Hong at 10.02 and I got to the station around 8.30 as it takes time to get to the station building. The procedure is very similar to airports, they check your passport, which in China is your ticket as well, you go through the x-ray and body check before you are in the the waiting area. Then they check your passport (ticket) one more time when you get on the train. The train left on time, and it was a comfortable bullet train, although it never reached the speeds they can reach in China. The fastest bullet train I’ve travelled on had a high speed of over 300 km/h.

The train trip itself was actually quite boring. Mostly the train travelled in tunnels so you could not enjoy much of the scenery on the way. Finns don’t need a visa to Laos at the moment, you get 15 days visa free but obviously not many Finns had done this trip as I was asked three times, where is your visa. Once on the train, then on the Chinese immigration and third time on the Laotian immigration. Every time I had to explain that people from Finland don’t need a visa at the moment and after some checking, they luckily believed me. The whole trip took about five hours, two of which were spent crossing the borders, one in each. Then when the Mekong -river came to sight, I knew, I was near to my destination.

I arrived at the Luang Prabang train station at around 12.15 p.m. and as soon as I walked down from the platforms, I was accosted by tuk-tuk and taxi drivers. I finally took a songthaew and paid 5 USD for the trip. In the beginning, I thought, it was too much but actually it was quite a long trip to down town and I was the only passenger, plus the driver took me directly to my hotel.

It didn’t take a long time before I felt, I had gone back more than 30 years in time. It was just like in my early days there in the late 80’s, early 90’s. Bumby and dusty roads at the back of the songthaew. When we eventually arrived at the hotel, I was able to get some local money, Kip. I paid for my room, which was a nice room in a traditional building and right in the middle of the town. The sense of going back in time continued the whole trip. I had to wait for an hour before I got my room so I went to a nearby restaurant and had a beer. I sat there watching the world go buy and the sense of old times grew stronger all the time.

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I loved Luang Prabang for the reasons you state. I was there in September. Except for the fact that it was very wet when we were there, that certainly supressed the dust. I want to go back and experience it in the dry season.
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Luang Prabang, evening day 1 and day 2

When I got my room, I walked down to the Mekong -river, this was my 10th spot where I’ve seen the river. I sat down by the river with a beer and watched the sun go down.
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Next day I had a slow start, after breakfast I returned to my room and read the news. My main objective of this whole trip was not to see so many sights but just to watch the life in these four places I was going to visit. I did a good walk anyway and had a plan to visit the local museum. However, it was crowded and taking photos inside was forbidden, you had to leave your bag, phone and camera, if you had it, outside. I didn’t fancy that, so I didn’t go inside. Took a few photos outside and carried on with my walking. I sat in couple of bars drinking some lazy beers in the warmth of afternoon sunshine. As it was Christmas eve, I had promised to call home and talk with my family. Actually, it was funny but throughout my 22 years in Asia, this was the first time, I thought, it would be nice to be back at home for Christmas. After the call, I went to a nearby Indian restaurant for my own Christmas meal and then to an Aussi bar for some more beers. The two biggest groups of westerners in Luang Prabang seemed to be French (tourists) and Aussies (expats).

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