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‘Make peace with Sinovac’ if Thais wants to get back to normal, official says
“If we sat around and waited for ‘better’ vaccines then we wont reopen until the middle of next year,” the official said on condition of anonymity fearing public pushback.
If the junta allowed private hospitals to purchase more, offer better vaccines, and give people the choice, there wouldn't be this conundrum. Most Thais want the jab, but many have refused the one that doesn't work - I don't think threats from the regime will change that.
The reasons the generals are pedaling Sinovac have been well-publicized.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
Or maybe if they'd taken the trouble to learn from the successes and failures of other countries through 2020 when Thailand didn't have a covid problem.
B230m paid out in jab compensation
A total of 464 people who have died or become severely and permanently disabled following Covid-19 vaccinations have so far been financially compensated by the government's no-fault compensation programme for vaccine recipients.
Since the launch of the programme on May 19, a total of 3,626 out of all 4,065 requests for the compensation received by the National Health Security Office (NHSO) have been approved, said Dr Jadej Thammatacharee, secretary-general of the NHSO, on Monday.
A total of 230.79 million baht has been paid in compensation for serious side effects including 464 linked deaths and severe disabilities, said Dr Jadej.
As of Monday, another 287 requests for compensation were still being examined by the NHSO's area committees tasked with inspecting reported Covid-19 vaccination adverse events and deciding on the compensation payment, he said.
I see many who moved their vaccine from Bangkok to Hua Hin turned up for their 2nd dose today, but were turned away by HHH due to an administrative error i.e. they called people too soon for their 2nd shot.
buksida wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:05 pmB230m paid out in jab compensation
A total of 464 people who have died or become severely and permanently disabled following Covid-19 vaccinations have so far been financially compensated by the government's no-fault compensation programme for vaccine recipients.
Since the launch of the programme on May 19, a total of 3,626 out of all 4,065 requests for the compensation received by the National Health Security Office (NHSO) have been approved, said Dr Jadej Thammatacharee, secretary-general of the NHSO, on Monday.
A total of 230.79 million baht has been paid in compensation for serious side effects including 464 linked deaths and severe disabilities, said Dr Jadej.
As of Monday, another 287 requests for compensation were still being examined by the NHSO's area committees tasked with inspecting reported Covid-19 vaccination adverse events and deciding on the compensation payment, he said.
Would be very interesting to see what percentage of those were caused by Sinovac ... but of course they'll never release those stats.
Compare that with vaccine deaths in the US. The figures do not include disabilities.
Over 339 million vaccine doses were given to 187.2 million people in the US as of July 19, 2021. The vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective. Vaccination is happening under the most intensive safety monitoring in U.S. history.
How many people have died after getting a vaccine?
Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018% of doses) among people who got a vaccine, but this does not mean the vaccine caused these deaths. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented.
After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths. Nonetheless, the CDC and FDA will continue to investigate every single report of death (and other adverse events) reported to VAERS.
‘Make peace with Sinovac’ if Thais wants to get back to normal, official says
“If we sat around and waited for ‘better’ vaccines then we wont reopen until the middle of next year,” the official said on condition of anonymity fearing public pushback.
If the junta allowed private hospitals to purchase more, offer better vaccines, and give people the choice, there wouldn't be this conundrum. Most Thais want the jab, but many have refused the one that doesn't work - I don't think threats from the regime will change that.
The reasons the generals are pedaling Sinovac have been well-publicized.
If private hospitals could buy their own vaccines, they wouldn't be given out for free. Hospitals aren't charities.
Today I had a 1200 baht blood test for 3900 baht at Bangkok Hospital. They are the only hospital that has a nurse who can find my submerged veins. Hua Hin Hospital tried 4 times in each arm and I finally said, "Never mind" and left covered in bruises and in pain. Sometimes there's a reason to pay more.
handdrummer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:39 pm
If private hospitals could buy their own vaccines, they wouldn't be given out for free. Hospitals aren't charities.
Where did I say the word free?
There is a large portion of middle-class Thais that would pay for a jab if they had the choice of something better than Anutin's untested Sinococktail. I'm fully vaxed yet the mrs has not had her first due to lack of choice (we're the same age and travel a lot ... well, used to). Willing to pay but nothing available outside of Bangkok (not an option as previously explained). I know many in the same situation, mistrust of the regime runs deep.
If the junta wants everybody vaxed, they need to offer a choice rather than forcing their inferior products and own agendas down everybody's throats and making threats.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
handdrummer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:39 pm
If private hospitals could buy their own vaccines, they wouldn't be given out for free. Hospitals aren't charities.
Where did I say the word free?
There is a large portion of middle-class Thais that would pay for a jab if they had the choice of something better than Anutin's untested Sinococktail. I'm fully vaxed yet the mrs has not had her first due to lack of choice (we're the same age and travel a lot ... well, used to). Willing to pay but nothing available outside of Bangkok (not an option as previously explained). I know many in the same situation, mistrust of the regime runs deep.
If the junta wants everybody vaxed, they need to offer a choice rather than forcing their inferior products and own agendas down everybody's throats and making threats.
I think you're implying that the middle class would buy the vaccines. What would the poor do?
handdrummer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:00 pm
I think you're implying that the middle class would buy the vaccines. What would the poor do?
The poor get Sinovac/Pharm/AZ mixtures for free, those with the means to pay for jabs should be given the choice to do so - at the moment they're not. Most countries offer a selection.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
handdrummer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:00 pm
I think you're implying that the middle class would buy the vaccines. What would the poor do?
The poor get Sinovac/Pharm for free, those with the funds to pay for a jab should be given the choice to do so - at the moment they're not. Most countries offer a selection.
Sounds like health for the wealthy and good luck to the rest. Harley St. vs. the NHS.
handdrummer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:16 pm
Sounds like health for the wealthy and good luck to the rest. Harley St. vs. the NHS.
No, it sounds like a choice - which nobody has in Thailand regardless of their financial status. The junta should enable hospitals to procure and offer a range of vaccines, but they won't.
Who is the happier man, he who has braved the storm of life and lived or he who has stayed securely on shore and merely existed? - Hunter S Thompson
Well in the UK you don’t have a choice, you are given the vaccine that the Government determines according to your age group and you can’t buy alternative vaccines
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:22 pm
Well in the UK you don’t have a choice, you are given the vaccine that the Government determines according to your age group and you can’t buy alternative vaccines
But there are several different ones available? And they have been proven to be effective (unlike what has been forced upon the population here).
Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (Sept. 29, 2021)
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About 27.35% of the population is fully vaccinated. 31,582,548 (+249,459) people have received the first dose, while 18,098,882 (+422,848) have been fully inoculated.
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At this rate, Thailand needs to administer 490,431 doses per day within 94 days to reach the herd immunity target by the year's end.
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