This one will give even history scholars a headache. Regardless, it's worth watching and perhaps merits additional research if anyone is so inclined. One point I find interesting is that there was a Kingdom or State named Phetchaburi starting around 795 AD and lasting until about 900 AD that is in the exact same location as Phetchaburi today. That is one of the few place names on the map I can recognize before more modern times. Pete
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Oh my Buddha and for years I've thought, I''m the only one on this forum interested in the history and the culture of the area. Plenty of things, I'd like to talk about but everytime I've started a thread on Thai culture or history, I've been beaten by threads like, where to find British mustard in Hua Hin. Thanks, Pete.
Bamboo Grove wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 12:33 am
Oh my Buddha and for years I've thought, I''m the only one on this forum interested in the history and the culture of the area. Plenty of things, I'd like to talk about but everytime I've started a thread on Thai culture or history, I've been beaten by threads like, where to find British mustard in Hua Hin. Thanks, Pete.
I've found your Thai history threads very enlightening - problem is I never know enough to contribute.
Recent readings about the British Empire in Asia has lead me to curiosity about the French Colonization of Indo China, and I always wondered what was the true story behand that sequence in the move Apocalypse Now with the French farmes/Settlers in Laos, where Captain Willard (Martin Sheen) dines with them.
I subsequently bought on Amazon a book about it - "INDO CHINA - An Ambiguous Colonization 18585 - 1954"
I shall report back when I have anything of perceived interest to contribute.
I watched the video and truly enough, there was the name of Petchaburi but I have never come across a state called Petchaburi. I have written some essays (in Finnish) about the pre-history as well as of the different states along the Mekong-river but I have never come across a state called this. Doesn't mean it didn't exist, though. There are several theories about the pre-historic times of the area, which falls to the era of the above mentioned time and I have mainly concentrated on how the Tais came to South-East Asia. Maybe in the summer time when I have more time, I will try to find more about this.
I haven't come to grips yet with the colour coded boxes and if they have some meaning that is not immediately obvious. The Phetchaburi colour I think was listed as Khmer Empire so an assumption could be that it was part of, but perhaps semi-autonomous? Pete
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The scene in A Now where they eat with the French family was edited out of the original version. Later they released a 'Directors cut,about 20+min longer with that scene in. It really improved the movie, gave it some perspective.
oakdale160 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 10:36 am
The scene in A Now where they eat with the French family was edited out of the original version. Later they released a 'Directors cut,about 20+min longer with that scene in. It really improved the movie, gave it some perspective.
Could you please expand on what you're saying please. I was baffled, but assumed your post meant something to somebody, but we are now getting enquiries asking what on Earth you're saying, and what does it have to do with this thread??
oakdale160 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 10:36 am
The scene in A Now where they eat with the French family was edited out of the original version. Later they released a 'Directors cut,about 20+min longer with that scene in. It really improved the movie, gave it some perspective.
With regard to that, I found this website that has a bit about that scene and apparently there was still the odd French rubber farmer active in the region through the 1960's.
oakdale160 wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 10:36 am
The scene in A Now where they eat with the French family was edited out of the original version. Later they released a 'Directors cut,about 20+min longer with that scene in. It really improved the movie, gave it some perspective.
Could you please expand on what you're saying please. I was baffled, but assumed your post meant something to somebody, but we are now getting enquiries asking what on Earth you're saying, and what does it have to do with this thread??
Oakdale was reffering to a section in my post about a scene from the movie "Apocallypse Now". He is right that the scene with the French settlers were edited out in the original release - I have the Directors Cut - version so it's in there and it is a reference to the fact that the French were in Indo China before the US.
Those settlers born there of french descent must have a story to tell.
I recently finisehd a book by John Keay "Mad About the Mekong" - a true story about the first french expedition in an effort to travel Mekong from end to beginning. It has some allusions to brithish travels in Africa and as I understand it was the beginning of French coloniasation in Indo China
Regardless, it's worth watching and perhaps merits additional research if anyone is so inclined. One point I find interesting is that there was a Kingdom or State named Phetchaburi starting around 795 AD and lasting until about 900 AD that is in the exact same location as Phetchaburi today. That is one of the few place names on the map I can recognize before more modern times. Pete 
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