The future of the Tuk Tuk

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Trotter wrote:12 tuk tuks is plenty for a first year in Brighton. They compete with buses and taxis for passengers.

If you are a passenger and you want to travel by tuk tuk you will be able to do that without too much difficulty.
What cc engine capacity are the tuk tuks? Is it still 500?

If the groove really took off you could get a cult following and that could lead to tuk tuk races! Vrum Vrum!
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A woman was taken to hospital after the first road accident involving a tuk-tuk.

The passenger, in her 20s, was injured after one of the motorised rickshaws crashed into a stationary vehicle on Saturday.

Dominic Ponniah, executive director of the company, said in a statement: "The driver was able to quickly bring the vehicle under control and to a complete stop. It is with regret that one passenger was slightly injured in the accident.
This is done by crashing into a stationary vehicle ?
I must have missed this part of my driving test,,, bringing a vehicle under control by crashing into a stationary object

Have to agree Burger these things in Brighton do not look the safest form of transport in the world ...

But they do not seem to resemble the Thai style of tuk tuks in the least and it does say they are rickshaws
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You've read the same articles as me.

One of the articles reports that the police believe the tuk tuk driver controlled the tuk tuk responsibly during the accident. I have no other details. Nor have I ever driven a tuk tuk so have no driving experience of a tuk tuk to say how easy or difficult they are to control. I imagine that they are easier to control when they are working properly than at the moment they have a tyre blow out.

If the UK police felt the driver did well to crash into a stationery vehicle and did not bring any charges, then presumably crashing into a stationery vehicle after a blow out was an OK outcome? Perhaps the alternatives would have been worse?

It would be interesting to know if anybody has seen a tuk tuk have a blow out in Thailand or been a passenger in one when it had a blow out, and if so how the driver (and passengers) dealt with the situation?

Mrs Trotter and I have had our own fair share of hairy moments in tuk tuks in LOS. We were in a tuk tuk in Hua Hin two or three years ago coming down a steep hill from a waterfall or temple out of town (cannot remember the name Kao Sarm Muk?) when the gears failed. I think it was stuck in a low gear, the engine was racing, smoke was coming from somewhere, and the driver had trouble stopping it with the brakes (but did so eventually).

After bringing our vehicle to a stop, our tuk tuk driver told Mrs Trotter with a smile that a similar thing happened to "his friend's" tuk tuk coming back from the same place a week or two before our trip. Apparently that time "his friend" was unable to control the tuk tuk and bring it to a stop. His driver "friend" jumped out of the tuk tuk while it was in motion and the farang passengers then did the same. The tuk tuk came to a stop when it crashed.

Not a blow out that time, just a brake failure coming down a steep hill; but the method of bringing the vehicle to a stop sounds similar to that reportedly used in Brighton for a blow out.

I have never travelled in a tuk tuk in Brighton and probably never will. I prefer the buses. But the Brighton tuk tuks are fun to see on the streets and many people seem to like them. I am glad we have them here. I decided to post about them as reading this thread some posters seemed to think there are no tuk tuks in the UK. How wrong I was as it is now clear that many of those same posters are actually experts on the Brighton tuk tuks.
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An un-biased point of view perhaps ?
If it is running in Britain with "roll bars, side-impact protection and seatbelts" is a tuk tuk still a tuk tuk ?.

Yes, it is a death trap and an accident waiting to happen. Thanks to a loophole in the law the British public are now being asked to ride these lawn-mower type sardine cans to help the "enviroment". As for roll bars, you might find they will come in handy but they might be fatal. I wonder if VOSA have done any proper crash-testing on them ?
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Burger.

Let me remind you.

Firstly the ones in brighton are in fact BAJAS. Indian you will find,

If you had half a brain you would understand 3 point seat belts are designed to keep you in the vehicle.

You can scrutinise my affairs all you like but i make an honest living unlike yourself.

What i sell you own 100 per cent. The same can not be said about your houses you build here.

Are you maybe a bit pissed that your developments cant sell.

Come talk to me as i am a good listener.

People are starting to wonder if you have feathers, :roll:

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You are right Randy.

No more from me on this one.

Cheers,

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My god its like - i'm taking my ball and going home!!! Children please!
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Well, well...Hua Hin is a booming town, especially during this season!
No tourists, no investors...nearly everybody who's running a business here is crying into his beer... but Tuctucs and houses should be sold out like fish and chips !

Great stuff, mates... :lach:
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tuktukmike wrote:
The question of the roof surprises me Guess, If you had some knowledge of the mechanics of safety you would have understood why the roof structure had to be changed.

No I am not au fait at all with this subject. I just I remember the debate in the US regarding illegalization of open topped vehicles which was later repeated in Germany. In both cases the result was a compromise where tops could be left off but roll cage type front & rear screen surrounds needed to be fitted which along with the use of seat belts meant that more people would survive in a rollover. These debates were both many years ago so I guess technology has advanced.

Anyway from what I have read on this topic now I gather we are not discussing the Tuk Tuk that we have here in Thailand but a completely re-engineered vehicle that has just managed to retain the look of a Tuk Tuk.

Perhaps you can explain to me what the roof strengthen is aimed at then if it is not solely related to the vehicle turning over.



You are also confusing the MOT test with Type Approval, The testing by Vosa takes around 4 hours and everything down to the last detail is tested. You are more than welcome to look at my Vosa Inspection Manual.

I am not sure whether or not you were answering me here or not. The other answers above were obviously not as they did not relate to anything I wrote. I am well aware of what a UK MOT test is but do not know what changes have been made since I was last there five years ago. I am also aware that a land vehicle equivalent of the "Certificate of Airworthiness" has to be approved before any vehicle can be sold for use on public roads.

I have no knowledge of the test you refer to unless it is the same thing but do not doubt what you say. I have just not been aware that there was such a thing although it makes sense for special vehicles that will only appear in very small numbers or are even unique like the guy who made a car with a 27 liter Spitfire Engine in it. My statement was a reference to the validity of any kind of vehicle testing in the UK. They have a serious lack of common sense. (e.g. A truck driver of has to have a record of his movements which was by Tachometer but now I believe by GPS. By law everybody has to wear a seat belt in a car including the driver when driving alone. A minibus can be driven by anybody with a car drivers license and fill it with people without the need for seat belts and no driving time constraints. Of course this may have changed now but it was true less than ten years ago.)


We of course cant moniter every vehicle, but all vehicles are of course sold with documentation and owners are asked to register their vehicles with us, we would also have been asked for panels should there ever have been any damage. common sense me thinks.

I cant comment on the state of cambridge council but hopefully you could supply some sort of evidence as to why you would make such a statement. To be honest, just who in their right mind would want to live in Milton Keynes.Bracknell or Stevenage.

A bit tongue in cheek really but Cambridge came out in a fairly recent report on Freemasonry in Local Goverment, to be the second or third most infiltrated in the UK. No explanation of why was given.

As for the mention of MK Bracknell or Stevenage, whether people in their right mind or not would live in those places is irrelevant. The fact is that many people do and also people travel in and out of those towns from the surrounding areas. What these three towns have in common is that they are all actively trying to reduce road accidents by clamping down on speeding, unsafe vehicles and providing pedestrianization access.

BTW people live in those towns because they work nearby.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001 ... s/12ub.asp
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001 ... nes_UA.asp
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001 ... venage.asp
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001 ... est_ua.asp


Tennants brewery used them in their Mc andrews ad campaign about a scot who moved and opened a bar in Bangkok, The vehicles are still running around and used by the agency.

Mike. :cheers:

BTW, You are seriously out of touch. 3cylinder engines are more and more popular. Daihatsu has just produced one of the worlds cleanest engines and lightest and is of course 3 cylinder. Not to mention General Motors and others.

All I can say is hands up on that one. You have used the word seriously incorrectly, I think you mean completely. The number of cylinders in a car engine is of no interest to me whatsoever. What is of interest is safety and performance.
I will stick with my Chelsea Tractors while there is still enough fuel to run them. If you are ever driving in a Tuk Tuk and see one coming towards you with headlights blazing I should get out of the way if I were you. It could be me. I don't fancy prizing a Tuk Tuk out of my bull bars. A Honda Wave is bad enough.

I have still not seen anything to convince me that three wheeled vehicles are safe. Anyway I think that the men in Brussels will make the laws whatever you think.
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I don't mind using a tuk tuk it just depends on how desperate I am.
Also in HH you cannot get a proper taxi, so your choices are limited and if I travel over 5 minutes then I don't want to use a motorbike taxi.
I can't understand how the HH authorities priced tuk tuk fares at about x2 what it costs in BKK for an air-conditioned taxi?
what do you think of :
Putting meters on them.
Getting the police to check that they are all licensed and insured.
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Let me again explain to those who are lacking in brain matter.

Perhaps you can explain to me what the roof strengthen is aimed at then if it is not solely related to the vehicle turning over

All vehicles including 4 wheeled open topped sports cars must have roll over protection.

Guess, read what i have already said. where on earth do you think the support for 3 point seat belts will come from, a thin metal pole?.

Anyone knows that any vehicle can overturn but saying a 3 wheeled vehicle is unstable is just plain daft. so do we ban motorcycles.

3 wheelers have been around for a long time and will be with us for many years to come.

Our vehicles are fitted with taxi metres in the uk so no overcharging.

Certain idiots want to make this an issue due to the fact i do not agree with house purchase practises used by developers here so i will post no more on this subject.

If anyone needs more info then just check, [edited by advert police ]
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I think there is an obvious tie-up for developers/agents and the motor industry here. Houses could be sold with a tuk-tuk as an optional extra. No more unecessary car hire or taxi fares.

Happy Christmas everyone!

PEACE ON EARTH - that includes Hua Hin!!
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Jaime wrote:I think there is an obvious tie-up for developers/agents and the motor industry here. Houses could be sold with a tuk-tuk as an optional extra. No more unecessary car hire or taxi fares.

Happy Christmas everyone!

PEACE ON EARTH - that includes Hua Hin!!
That would only work if the development is named Amityville and the Tuk Tuk is driven by Freddie. Pete :cheers:
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Unfortunatly the equivilent of the dvla will not not issue new registration and number plates to tuk tuks in PKK so im am led to believe (wether this is for private use i am unsure)
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tuktukmike wrote:Let me again explain to those who are lacking in brain matter.

Perhaps you can explain to me what the roof strengthen is aimed at then if it is not solely related to the vehicle turning over

All vehicles including 4 wheeled open topped sports cars must have roll over protection.

Guess, read what i have already said. where on earth do you think the support for 3 point seat belts will come from, a thin metal pole?.

Anyone knows that any vehicle can overturn but saying a 3 wheeled vehicle is unstable is just plain daft. so do we ban motorcycles.

3 wheelers have been around for a long time and will be with us for many years to come.

Our vehicles are fitted with taxi metres in the uk so no overcharging.

Certain idiots want to make this an issue due to the fact i do not agree with house purchase practises used by developers here so i will post no more on this subject.

If anyone needs more info then just check, [edited by advert police ]
Mike. :cheers:
Mike you are talking out of your arse as usual. Firstly I did not raise the subject of seat belts. I asked about the need for reinforced roofs. You then make the statement that a roof is need to fix the third anchor point for the seat belt. What a load of bollocks. I used to have an open topped car in the US that had US safety approval (more strengthen than the UK I think). It way anchored to the rear door pillar.

Then you say it is daft to say that three wheeled vehicles are stable. Stability of course is relevant. I have drive a variety of vehicles with anything from two wheels to 18 wheels. (This is road wheels we are talking about her not steering wheels or fly wheels). I can assure you that three wheeled vehicles are more unstable than either two or four wheeled vehicles. You then write about banning motorcycles. Motorcycles have two wheels unless fitted with a side car. So what the fuck are you trying to say.

You then go on completely off topic about house purchase which is a subject that it is obvious you know nothing about as I have read your pathetic arguments with one particular guy who does know what he is talking about.

If you knew anything about the motor industry you would know that three wheeled vehicles came about because of economic reasons not technical reasons.

It seems to me that your contribution to this forum is purely just about stirring up shit and annoying people. If it was up to me I would ban you.

In future I will ignore anything posted by you so do not expect me to waste any time replying to you ongoing bullshit.

If Tuk Tuks were so fantastic then why are the European Authorities banning them along with other unsafe three wheeled vehicles.

Don't bother answering that. It will not be read by me.
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