Global Warming/Climate Change 2

[Dannie Boy]

Seems strange that there is quite high air pollution across the whole of Middle Africa - it can't be due to industrial output?

[sargeant]

Dannie boy i think you will find it comes from India and China

[Dannie Boy]

Dannie boy i think you will find it comes from India and China

Ah, passive air pollution!!

[STEVE G]

If you look at a similar diagram showing world population density, it looks almost the same:

[hhfarang]

I think that smoke across the center of Africa is from bombs, gunfire, and burning villages...

[MrPlum]

I think that smoke across the center of Africa is from bombs, gunfire, and burning villages...

Odd that school children's propaganda learning materials don't mention the Tomahawk Index.

Not that it matters. The failure to either predict or understand the 17 year pause in warming shows the climate models are bunkum.

Big hand for the ice sheets. Nice to see you back.

[STEVE G]

The real reason we haven't taken action on climate change? We're wired not to
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... scientists

".....it seems to me that our collective failure to tackle climate change is not just due to political deadlock or insufficient knowledge. There must be something else going on.
And that something else has a lot to do with the way we are wired as humans. We often prefer denial to confronting our problems, inescapable as they may be. We often shirk from responsibility for our share of the mess and hope that others will do the clean-up. We have an immoral tendency to weasel out when we feel that the bill will be footed by distant strangers or future generations. And we are loth to accept as true something that might jeopardise our cherished way of life. Therefore, some of us are more than willing to listen to charlatans telling us what we like to hear, for example that climate change is a hoax and that we should think positively and all will be well."

[MrPlum]

Not just 'deniers' any more but 'lazy, immoral deniers'. Well, that should motivate people.

[sargeant]

I think you left out charlatans which rings a bell

[STEVE G]

Not just 'deniers' any more but 'lazy, immoral deniers'....

I think that might be a bit on the mild side compared with how future generations will describe us!

[redzonerocker]

Frankly,we have been here before. Every five or six years, the IPCC tries to shake us up with another avalanche of paper. There have been four assessment reports since the first one appeared in 1990, and this one is number five. Every report is more detailed and more confident about the man-made nature of climate change, but essentially it's more of the same. The IPCC appears to be assuming that we haven't yet reached the critical mass of knowledge where science will galvanise action, so it produces one report after another. But are we really suffering from a lack of knowledge?

Quite the opposite i would say!!!

The IPCC 'investigation' ( ) fully supported the lies & the manipulation of climate data figures produced by the various scientific departments during the climategate scandal, therefore their reputation is just as tarnished.
They can produce a million assessment reports, but when the results are based on manipulated data, how can they be taken seriously??

Their desperation is embarassing

[PeteC]

This one is all over the news this afternoon. Pete

Scientists say more certain mankind causes global warming

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/ ... me=topNews

[Dannie Boy]

This one is all over the news this afternoon. Pete

Scientists say more certain mankind causes global warming

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/ ... me=topNews

Seems fairly convincing and therefore very worrying, but no doubt the sceptics will have a counter argument (or three) up their sleeve!!

[Frank Hovis]

I think that might be a bit on the mild side compared with how future generations will describe us!

They will probably describe both sides as plain stupid for failing to see that climate change itself is ironically immutable and that there was too much time spent arguing over if climate was changing and who was to blame and how to 'fix' it, instead of adapting to the inevitable.

Cnut the Great had more foresight than the Cnuts of today.

[STEVE G]

...that climate change itself is ironically immutable

Not at all, even the Romans manged to change the climate through extensive deforestation.