Advice on building materials; bricks, tiles etc

[poosmate]

I like Splitlid would love a clue to where these building regs hide on the internet. Any chance of a link? If possible pertaining to the Hua Hin area please.

[OscarMike]

Thanks for the replies - wasn't really asking about damp, just different brick/block types.

Get down to a builders merchants and check them out :-)

Any recommended in Hua Hin? I know its going to be more expensive to buy them in Hua Hin but I just want to have a look to get an idea of comparison.

It seems that those in your pic splitlid are the blocks of choice - what are the advantages of those over a regular square brick?

Yes, building regs link would be good also, don't want to fall foul of them though the architect and construction crew should adhere to them right?

What about roof tiles, is it just a case of personal choice and budget or do some offer more physical advantages over others?

[Super Joe]

you can however refer to Thai building regulations ( yes suprise surprise they do exist but are never enforced.) your first cross beam should be at least 155 cm above ground level. not below as yours is. building at this height will guarantee that damp cannot penetrate the house. why do you try to build a western house in Thailand?

Not sure where you get this one from mike. Try this Government website (might be of interest to you too OscarMike), it has some free pre-approved house plans from the Government, albeit henious in design. Obviously it shows the ground beams near the ground
http://www.dpt.go.th/download/PW/house_ ... house.html

A Government drawing

Thanks for the replies - wasn't really asking about damp, just different brick/block types.
Any recommended in Hua Hin? I know its going to be more expensive to buy them in Hua Hin but I just want to have a look to get an idea of comparison.
What about roof tiles, is it just a case of personal choice and budget or do some offer more physical advantages over others?

Try 'cool thai house' website, there's some helpful info/articles by farangs building houses etc, not saying everything on there is kosher ofcourse.

SJ

[miked]

http://www.dryzone.eu/en/rising-damp-and-its-control/

damp can rise to a height of 150 cm. it you build below this height you are asking for trouble. if you build from ground level you are certain to have damp.
why take a chance. build from 155 cm.
miked

[miked]

OscarMike
Thanks for the replies - wasn't really asking about damp, just different brick/block types.


will get to the bricks/blocks and alot more besides.
miked

[poosmate]

Link?
I want to see some proof that the Thai building regs state that GROUND beams must be started 1.5 metres above ground.
I think the internet must be different in Chaam Are you a builder or a staircase salesman

[miked]

poosmate
go to your local land office or the land department that approved your plans. they will explain the building regs to you. no you don't have to build 155 cm above ground level, that's up to you. quite frankly it's common sense and i'm amazed that with damp course material not available here anyone with an ounce of building experience would even consider below 155 cm. build from the ground level up if you want and you will have rising damp. if you want to live in a sub standard house that again is up to you. no i'm not a builder and i would add that imo most of the farang developers are certainly not.
if you take the trouble to enquire at the land office you will be strongly advised to build at this height.
miked

[poosmate]

Thai building regulations.... your first cross beam should be at least 155 cm above ground level

no you don't have to build 155 cm above ground level, that's up to you.

So why not admit you were talking out of your arse when quoting Thai building regulations that you obviously know nothing about. Another point why would a land registration office give advice or recommendation about building regulations?
How much building experience of building in Thailand do you have?
Lots of theory I suggest

[miked]

point why would a land registration office give advice or recommendation about building regulations?

try them and see.can be very helpful if you speak to them properly. i have enough experience not to build below 155 cm. but you go ahead if you haven't already and build ground level up. it is basic common sense, no building experience required just take advice from the farang developer down the bar. enjoy your sub standard damp house.
if you don't understand the height to build i shudder to think other mistakes that you have or will make.
miked

[poosmate]

Oscarmike:
Maybe more useful answer to your question regarding blocks.There are a lot of small on site manufacturer of air dried concrete block as used extensively in Thailand. Although shopping around may save a little it is usually better to source local to your building as delivery costs will be factored into price. Roof tiles I would recommend for durability and price to use concrete. Beware though of colour. I have used Vicon Tiles ( Australian made here under licence ). The colour can fade sometimes unevenly. On the same note ensure all you tiles ( and some extra for future replacements)are ordered from the same batch - shade can vary considerably.
If you let me know the area you are building I or others may be able to give a better idea of reliable local suppliers.

[miked]

poosmate

as i'm talking out of my arse perhaps you will give us your opinion on splitlid choice of bricks for his construction.
good or bad and please explain the reasons for your decision and would you recommend these bricks for construction. not a loaded question interested in your opinion.
miked

[poosmate]

Miked:
You are failing to read my posts properly. I was not questioning your advise. I was asking about building regulations in Thailand that you were quoting from. Now I am understanding better that your information is from a bloke that works in the land office and not regulation.
Having built and lived in my ground level house for seven years without damp I am not interested in European building methods and associated advise. Damp is usually a problem in a poorly ventilated building constantly sitting on wet soil. Thailand may have a wet season but 6 months of no rain ensures no damp can remain and cause a problem. This in conjunction with good air flow through the building will dry any moisture that has risen into the concrete.Just to add damp proofing material is available and easily obtained from good builders merchants. It is not widely used as it is considered unnecessary.
Re concrete block question. Cheap, widely available, quick and easy to lay with little skill and suitable for long term building use. Also gives good sound insulation. 14cm hollow block reflects some heat resulting in a cooler interior and is easy to bury services in.And must be good for the damp you keep harping on about as I haven't heard of anybody complaining.

[splitlid]

miked, although proven to be wrong seems to enjoy making stuff up just to get a reaction from other members. he does stand by his opinions though, which is highly commendable.
even if his opinions are just 'his opinions'

everyone else who disagrees with him must be an idiot. i know i am.

so come on miked, get to the bricks and blocks that you promised. please.

and stop starting shit fights, this thread is to help people, not to try and boost you flailing ego.

[miked]

splitlid
this thread is to help people

exactly what i'm trying to do. if your happy building to the plans that you posted then good luck. i wouldn't build to that spec. i also wouldn't' use those blocks and build single wall. 25 cm posts, 6 x 16 mm re bar per post, 2met foundations. double 25 cm brick wall with a 5 cm vented cavity. and by the way allot more concrete in the foundations than you are using. if you disagree with that then i don't think your an idiot, i know it
miked

[splitlid]

splitlid
this thread is to help people

exactly what i'm trying to do. if your happy building to the plans that you posted then good luck. i wouldn't build to that spec. i also wouldn't' use those blocks and build single wall. 25 cm posts, 6 x 16 mm re bar per post, 2met foundations. double 25 cm brick wall with a 5 cm vented cavity. and by the way allot more concrete in the foundations than you are using. if you disagree with that then i don't think your an idiot, i know it
miked

miked, you have no idea what is being built on top of those footings i have posted in the plans, so how can you comment that they are insufficient for the job?
also those beams,columns, footings have been calculated by a structural engineer, surely, he can be wrong and you right?

so your going to build a wall which is 300mm thick, wow, thats thicker than 'western' countries use and they seem to get by.

your calculations are overkill.
where are you getting your info from?