Crazy 88, what is your secret? what would you do? I am not naive nor stupid, however the ONLY way to get something done here (and any other 3rd world country) whether or not you are liable is to PAY.
The ONLY thing that you can negotiate is how much it is going to cost you, I will agree that if you want, for example, to put up with a shoddy road, you of course do have the option of not paying and suffer in silence.
It really boils down to the quality/standard of living an individual is prepared to accept, some people have a higher expectation/standard than others!
They are the ones who in my opinion WILL pay every time to maintain that standard.
Those who live by a lower standard are normally the people who make comments such as, "Only the naive or stupid always pay"
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interested wrote:I am not naive nor stupid, however the ONLY way to get something done here (and any other 3rd world country) whether or not you are liable is to PAY.
interested wrote:I have lived full time in Hua Hin for the past 4 years ......and I can not wait to get out!
interested wrote:I am thinking of purchasing a holiday home on the pavillion development.
Isn't it normal to pay whether you live in Europe or Asia?
That's why we pay tax in Europe and bits and pieces here.
What are your interests and intentions?
Do you want to live here or get out?
I intend to live forever - so far so good.
Interested
I don't have any secrets .I simply do my homework .I have cited many examples of avoiding paying over the odds on other threads .
You cite the example of a road leading to Chutrikan .Whether public or not if the developer promised the residents a road .What would I do ? Simple .I would have written into my contract a clause that would hold back an agreed amount of the purchase price against the construction of the road .50% of this amount to paid upon commencing construction of the road and agreed progress payments from there as you would with a house .I would have it written in such a way that provision of the road was a seperate entity to the land and house .
If the road is public then I would have found that out before commiting .You cannot expect a developer to be responsible for the entire soi eg 102 .If however they make promises then bind them contractually to said promises .
My comment regarding only stupid or niave Farangs "always pay" was a note on your use of capital letters .ONLY,ALWAYS. Seemed to denote an absolute truth .There are times when it is easier to pay a little to speed things up of course so I will amend my post to read "only niave or stupid farangs ALWAYS pay"
I was originally referring to the little scams such as an accident that was clearly not your fault resulting in a demand for cash when you are fully insured .In these kind of circumstances I will not part with a satang .However once sorted I would of course return to the police station with a bottle of JWB to show my appreciation for all the help the nice officer gave me .
Your intimation that I "live by a lower standard" is a little offensive considering you do not know me I feel .
One point I will concede is that on the matter of the road you are almost certainly correct .If you want it fixed and the local PYB and the developer will not help then the residents will have to do something .
Crazy 88
I don't have any secrets .I simply do my homework .I have cited many examples of avoiding paying over the odds on other threads .
You cite the example of a road leading to Chutrikan .Whether public or not if the developer promised the residents a road .What would I do ? Simple .I would have written into my contract a clause that would hold back an agreed amount of the purchase price against the construction of the road .50% of this amount to paid upon commencing construction of the road and agreed progress payments from there as you would with a house .I would have it written in such a way that provision of the road was a seperate entity to the land and house .
If the road is public then I would have found that out before commiting .You cannot expect a developer to be responsible for the entire soi eg 102 .If however they make promises then bind them contractually to said promises .
My comment regarding only stupid or niave Farangs "always pay" was a note on your use of capital letters .ONLY,ALWAYS. Seemed to denote an absolute truth .There are times when it is easier to pay a little to speed things up of course so I will amend my post to read "only niave or stupid farangs ALWAYS pay"
I was originally referring to the little scams such as an accident that was clearly not your fault resulting in a demand for cash when you are fully insured .In these kind of circumstances I will not part with a satang .However once sorted I would of course return to the police station with a bottle of JWB to show my appreciation for all the help the nice officer gave me .
Your intimation that I "live by a lower standard" is a little offensive considering you do not know me I feel .
One point I will concede is that on the matter of the road you are almost certainly correct .If you want it fixed and the local PYB and the developer will not help then the residents will have to do something .
Crazy 88
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To answer the moderators question; I would most definitely not buy anything from that particular developer, for many reasons, the main being that as far as I am aware she has not fulfilled her commitments on the Chutikran 3 project. I know that she promised the same facilities as she has promised on the Pavillion project but as yet nothing has happened, and it seems unlikely to happen?
As for my intentions, if I could find something that represents value for money we would consider staying, but as you must be aware these seem very few and far between?
Even if we were to find such a project, you then have to consider the risks involved if you dare to complain. Then there is the 'second class' citizen factor to consider.
Obviously the corruption that one has to endure has also to be taken into consideration.
On a plus my wife's hospital treatment is some of the best that she has received, that is one of the things keeping us here.
As for my intentions, if I could find something that represents value for money we would consider staying, but as you must be aware these seem very few and far between?
Even if we were to find such a project, you then have to consider the risks involved if you dare to complain. Then there is the 'second class' citizen factor to consider.
Obviously the corruption that one has to endure has also to be taken into consideration.
On a plus my wife's hospital treatment is some of the best that she has received, that is one of the things keeping us here.
I tend to agree with that and there are a few other members that really do know 'the score' when it comes to this sort of stuff.crazy88 wrote:I don't have any secrets .I simply do my homework .......
The only thing I'll say from a layman's perspective is that it's hard to see 'all ends' when you're trying sort out property issues because so many people(including official agencies/amenities providers etc) are trying to give you a 'good shafting'.
You think you've sorted everything, but have you..............? Easy to get caught out.
However, a lot of sense has come here from SJ and Crazy88.
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For what its worth (interested), I bought my house here 2 years ago and feel I got tremendous value for my money. I am still living in the house now, developer has sorted out any problems quickly and delivered on all his promises.
I know he is still building here now so I am sure he is still delivering VFM, in fact I know he is because an agent friend of mine take lots of people to view his houses because he knows they will be satisfied customers if they buy.
PM me if you want more details.
I know he is still building here now so I am sure he is still delivering VFM, in fact I know he is because an agent friend of mine take lots of people to view his houses because he knows they will be satisfied customers if they buy.
PM me if you want more details.
Quality and value for money in farang friendly areas where the locals make you feel part of the community and are always willing to help out do exist .I live in such an area only a few minutes from town .Reminds me of a country village back home .Lots of trees and fields,mountain views with a few quality developments dotted around rather than the sprawling concrete jungle over the hill .Roads no problem as the district mayor lives a couple of hundred metres away .He won't tolerate crime or teenage gangs on scooters either .
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acceptable farang the OP and governor are the same person along with the next pseduname talking up huahinhillvillage and how "great" it is to buy. Very embarassing.
I bought a house there and bum the developer (is acceptable farang , governor etc Bum or someone working for him) bum the developer has done nothing but give me the runaround with cracks and plumbing problems.
he used blue glued U traps (not real u traps just blue pvc pipe) that can't be unblocked. answer was this is thailand and the plumbing is ok. BS to huis answer.
about the wall and ground cracks he said that is not his fault because the ground is soft and all walls settle and crack a little.
between him and his wife ann who tryed it on with me(lesbian) sorry.
a mod can delete above if it too much info but i see someone else asking about hua hinhillvillage and buying a new house here from BUM so a big
"BUYER BEWARE"
I heard someone on here say about someone they would greet you smiling and shaking your hand while picking your pocket with the other. i think of that when i try to talk with that developer.
I bought a house there and bum the developer (is acceptable farang , governor etc Bum or someone working for him) bum the developer has done nothing but give me the runaround with cracks and plumbing problems.
he used blue glued U traps (not real u traps just blue pvc pipe) that can't be unblocked. answer was this is thailand and the plumbing is ok. BS to huis answer.
about the wall and ground cracks he said that is not his fault because the ground is soft and all walls settle and crack a little.
between him and his wife ann who tryed it on with me(lesbian) sorry.
a mod can delete above if it too much info but i see someone else asking about hua hinhillvillage and buying a new house here from BUM so a big
"BUYER BEWARE"
I heard someone on here say about someone they would greet you smiling and shaking your hand while picking your pocket with the other. i think of that when i try to talk with that developer.
Suealoy; yet again another thread is locked because of your unfounded accusations.
Consider this a warning.
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