Goodbye Hua Hin

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Goodbye Hua Hin

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my last few weeks in Hua hin, with so many friends etc already left for pastures new, and the lack of jobs in Thailand in general for farangs, I decided to leave also, bad exchange rates, corruption and visa rules changing daily it's only a matter of time for us all.
Just spent 5 hrs in immigration in bkk :banghead: had to renew my visa, so many people complaining and so much red tape, I got a visa for vietnam in 5 minutes online, lasts 1 yr cost $40. no cueing up, no need to photocopy a complete forest of paper every 90 days.

good luck to you all in HH.
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I guess you weren't "heretostay" after all. :D

I understand where you're coming from though. The difficulties in living here and owning property here are very tiring and if I didn't have a Thai wife and all my worldly wealth invested here, I'd leave too!

Good luck to you. I think they have internet in Viet Nam so you could keep us informed of your progress and where you end up and what you think about it after a while. :cheers:
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Yes, your thoughts echo the sentiment of many and I'm sad to agree that I'm one of them. What with all the clampdowns on foreigners and foreign companies lately that seem to be "Hua Hin specific" it is no longer the friendly welcoming town it used to be.

Fine for a 2 week vacation though.

Good luck on the road and keep us updated here, I'm sure many others are feeling the same thing.
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Good luck to you and keep us informed how you're getting along.
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keep the avatar though :lach: :lach: :lach: :lach: sorry couldnt resist it

anyway best of luck on your travels :wink: :wink:
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Goodluck heretostay...
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I agree with most of what heretostay has said to. I have never been to Vietnam though, so i can't really offer you any advice on that country but good luck anyways.

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Yes being treated like a 2nd class citizen and a walking ATM does have its' drawbacks. Not sure Vietnam will treat you any differently though. It does have some nice shapely distractions I've been told and the beer is OK ! Chook di!
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Very best of luck with your move Heretostay. Keep in touch. It sounds like you won't be the last, which is sad, but like others I know where you're coming from.
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Thanks for the support and best wishes, will check in to HHAD and keep you posted, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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I will stay away from the BBQ there, i heard the meat is a bit woof.
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Hope it goes well for you hereto.

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On a general note, they've recently instigated a crackdown on farangs who were using visa agents to extend them inside Vietnam every 3 months? Now they can only get extend their initial 3 month permit just once for 30 days, then have to leave the country and repeat the process.
There's no retirement visa, so unless you're working or married to a local you couldn't get a long stay visa. Reading the expat reports on "Living in Vietnam" forum, they're all talking about leaving as it was costing 200 USD a year to keep extending (a sort of loophole like the 30 day runners here), but now the cost and tea money is 400 USD every 3 months or something like that.

They're also cracking down on expats WP's, enforcing the existing rules that you're supposed to have diplomas (university/master/doctorate), certified by your home country, recognized high skills or be of an executive management position, link ... Effective immediately, the Vietnamese Department of Immigration has reduced the maximum stay for visa holders from 6 months to 3 months. Furthermore, these visas can now be extended only once for 30 days.

The regulations to marry a local citizen include providing a blood test proving you are not infected with any VD or HIV, then you wait up to 60 days for authorities to decide whether or not to accept your application and register the marriage :shock: Their immigration policy states that any foreigners (even with PR) that stay overnight in a Vietnamese citizen's house have to declare this, together with the address, to the local police.

The expats on the forums say the level of corruption by the authorities on farangs is bordering on extortion, and that the police physically monitor them, Vietnam expat forum quotes:
"I've already seen evidence that local police are watching foreigners more"
"Me too. I've been conscious of being watched several times recently"
"the most blatant watching I've encountered is when a casual aquaintance suddenly starts pestering with lots of questions about papers visas, drivers license, religious affiliations, lists of your friends and colleagues. The next thing you know, that person is riding around on the back of a motorbike with a police officer"


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interesting as you dont need a visa agent as you can do all online, with the vietnam embassy. i got my business visa in 24 hrs last 1 yr, no wp required only letter from employer!!!
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heretostay Good luck in Vietnam, keep in touch. Sad to see another HHAD member leave.

If the reported corruption is as bad as described, don't unpack your case.

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heretostay wrote:interesting as you dont need a visa agent as you can do all online, with the vietnam embassy. i got my business visa in 24 hrs last 1 yr, no wp required only letter from employer!!!
It's for the renewals that immigration directs people to use visa agents, according to expats living there posting on the above link (see quotes below).
Whereas up until recently people just used to extend these Business visas inside Vietnam, now WP's are required for renewals. They're also enforcing the required criteria for a WP, ie: you need a special skill, diploma, degree or doctorate etc certified by your home country. Hopefully you'll be fine as your employer could arrange everything.

I was really pointing out how restrictive it has recently become in Vietnam with their recent crackdown on foreigners. Unless you're married to a local or qualify for the WP then you're a bit stuffed. The majority of us on HHAD would have little chance of settling there under their current immigration policy.

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"yes, I tried it once in HCMC, immigration police said NO, go to travel agent or similar. They want their tee money, that is why you can not do it yourself."

"I had similar experiences as Roadking and Bauxuage at immigration. First time I was declined and told to go to a tour company. The second time the authorities deliberately held onto the paperwork for weeks to scare me into bribing them, so I wouldn't be held after the expiration date. Gave up and went to a tour company."

"I have been here two years now I have done everything I can to be legal, but money is everything. I have applied for a work permit, got a police check, had the medical and filled out all the paperwork, and guess what they knocked me back because I didnt have a degree."

"had a 1 year visa, renewed and got a 3 month single entry"

"I also went to immigration and they turned me away, things are different now. Last year you could go but now its a different story."


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Looks to me like Vietnams visa laws are equally as restrictive as Thailands visa laws are.
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