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Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:31 pm
by Big Boy
HHTel wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 7:10 pm
Yep. It's just registrations at the moment. I don't think HH has been allotted, never mind received any vaccine yet.
They are saying at the registration desks that us wrinklies will be getting AZ. Of course, they can tell us anything to get us to register.
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At least, that was Thursday's story.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:05 am
by joelle
For information
"Registration vaccine for another person!" can be done also.
If person over 60ys is sick or immobilized and can't come by themself, another person can register on their behalf. Need copy of passport and filled registration form signed and this person can submit for them.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 11:55 am
by GroveHillWanderer
hhinner wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 7:35 pm
I'm sure vaccine has been allocated to HH. Whether there will be any AZ to distribute is a different matter.
This is the $64,000 dollar question. However I think there's reason for cautious optimism, since locally-produced test batches from Siam Bioscience have already passed quality assurance testing by AstraZeneca in the US & Europe and by the Department of Medical Sciences here in Thailand.
https://www.nationthailand.com/news/40001347
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 12:09 pm
by HHTel
The fact is that currently, the EU and the US will only allow travelers who have been vaccinated with approved vaccines. Currently, neither of the Chinese vaccines have approval.
The EU regulator has said that they're about to assess the Chinese vaccines but expect it to take some time. Anyone vaccinated with Sinovac will be barred for the foreseeable.
On the other side of the coin, China bars anyone who is NOT vaccinated with Sinovac or Sinopharm
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 12:14 pm
by HHTel
Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul confirmed on Tuesday that the locally produced AstraZeneca vaccine would be available for the masses from June 7
Anyone believing that should be sent to a corner with a pointed hat marked with a 'D'.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 12:17 pm
by HHTel
HHTel wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:09 pm
The fact is that currently, the EU and the US will only allow travelers who have been vaccinated with approved vaccines. Currently, neither of the Chinese vaccines have approval.
The EU regulator has said that they're about to assess the Chinese vaccines but expect it to take some time. Anyone vaccinated with Sinovac will be barred for the foreseeable.
On the other side of the coin, China bars anyone who is NOT vaccinated with Sinovac or Sinopharm
That means, along with many others, I'm sure, that my wife cannot visit the UK to see her daughters, which she was planning to do.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 12:52 pm
by Big Boy
Why? Has she been vaccinated already? If not, surely, if offered the wrong vaccine, she just says no thank you, and waits for the right vaccine to become available privately. It doesn't seem a huge problem to me.
Mrs BB and I are already thinking along those lines.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:03 pm
by HHTel
No she hasn't been vaccinated for just that reason. After I've been vaccinated, I'll be the only one in my family that has. Moderna which is the vaccine of choice by the Private Hospitals Association don't expect supplies until October. Even then it's up to the government.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:10 pm
by Big Boy
HHTel wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:03 pm
the Private Hospitals Association don't expect supplies until October. Even then it's up to the government.
If she's going to the UK, can't she get vaccinated once there? Or is a vaccine a condition of travel?
I don't know. I've seen the vaccine holidays to the States, and I've read of people leaving Thailand to get vaccinated?
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:12 pm
by Dannie Boy
I’ve not read anywhere that you need to be vaccinated to enter the UK - you might have to quarantine, but that’s based on country of departure/transit.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:37 pm
by joelle
HHTel wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:17 pm
HHTel wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:09 pm
The fact is that currently, the EU and the US will only allow travelers who have been vaccinated with approved vaccines. Currently, neither of the Chinese vaccines have approval.
The EU regulator has said that they're about to assess the Chinese vaccines but expect it to take some time. Anyone vaccinated with Sinovac will be barred for the foreseeable.
On the other side of the coin, China bars anyone who is NOT vaccinated with Sinovac or Sinopharm
That means, along with many others, I'm sure, that my wife cannot visit the UK to see her daughters, which she was planning to do.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-a ... d#red-list
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 1:49 pm
by HHTel
I wasn't referring to the traffic light system. I know that Thailand is currently amber.
Hopefully, that's not going to last forever. My point was that as vaccinated people are allowed in Europe and the US, the Sinovac vaccine doesn't cut the mustard and will be discriminated against allowing only people with an approved vaccine. Currently, the Chinese vaccines don't fall in that category.
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 2:38 pm
by Dannie Boy
HHTel wrote:I wasn't referring to the traffic light system. I know that Thailand is currently amber.
Hopefully, that's not going to last forever. My point was that as vaccinated people are allowed in Europe and the US, the Sinovac vaccine doesn't cut the mustard and will be discriminated against allowing only people with an approved vaccine. Currently, the Chinese vaccines don't fall in that category.
You said your wife can’t visit theUK to see her children, but as far as I’m aware, the only restrictions imposed by the UK authorities would be home quarantine upon arrival.
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Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 2:50 pm
by joelle
Dannie Boy wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:38 pm
HHTel wrote:I wasn't referring to the traffic light system. I know that Thailand is currently amber.
Hopefully, that's not going to last forever. My point was that as vaccinated people are allowed in Europe and the US, the Sinovac vaccine doesn't cut the mustard and will be discriminated against allowing only people with an approved vaccine. Currently, the Chinese vaccines don't fall in that category.
You said your wife can’t visit theUK to see her children, but as far as I’m aware, the only restrictions imposed by the UK authorities would be home quarantine upon arrival.
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Yes that is why I sent the link which tells you all about the conditions needed to enter UK, and there is no need to be vaccinated, therefore Mrs HHTel Is allowed in UK and can visit her daughter if she wishes
Re: Vaccines - Covid 19
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 3:00 pm
by HHTel
Correct. Also a negative test 3 days before travelling. Book and pay for covid tests on day 2 and 8 of your stay. You will be checked daily to ensure you are observing quarantine rules. Quite a rigmarole. Plus, of course the mandatory state quarantine and tests before and after returning to Thailand.
At some point vaccinations will be advantageous entering the UK and other destinations. BUT the Sinovac vaccine currently is not approved or recognised so you will be treated as unvaccinated.
Vaccinations are becoming more important. Many countries now accept vaccinated travelers:
https://www.afar.com/magazine/travelers ... -countries