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prcscct wrote:Admittedly I haven't researched how Dalglish is using Carroll, or how often he's using him. What's the problem? Pete :cheers:
He's not good enough to get into the team - yet. Theres the Geordies and then there's the next level up, that's what he has to adapt to. He's not there yet. I think Dalgliesh is thinking longer term.

As for Spurs v Chelsea, great game. They had most possession, we had more chances, seems to be the new tactic against the better teams, we just need to try it against Wigan and the like!

Cole handball? Fair do's, we'll take the penalty for the same thing!

Cue Hoddle & Souness cooing about JT - 'led from the front' and the last minute block, well both were estactic in their praise, so they should be, nearly scored and set up another that should have been a score as well. :bow:

Still would have preferred Lamps out there!

And I had my insurance on this in IKTS. :wink:
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Ask Torres, ask Defoe last season. Ask the entire England rugby team!
Dips in form happen in all sports. :(
Mind you, I don't believe Carroll will be anything other than a solid, traditional centre forward for any club. At Newcastle he was a big fish in a (relatively) small pond, as well as being new on the scene. :cheers:
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BaaBaa. wrote:Success?

3rd before Christmas is success at Spurs?

Suppose that highlights the difference between our clubs.
3rd at Christmas with a game in hand
I'll settle for that :neener:

Chock dee :cheers: :cheers:
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Terry wrote:
BaaBaa. wrote:Success?

3rd before Christmas is success at Spurs?

Suppose that highlights the difference between our clubs.
3rd at Christmas with a game in hand
I'll settle for that :neener:

Chock dee :cheers: :cheers:
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Fairplay, you're doing well this season.

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I don't know if you read it, BaaBaa, but it's actually a pretty good article. Entertaining, well-written and hardly complimentary!
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dtaai-maai wrote:I don't know if you read it, BaaBaa, but it's actually a pretty good article. Entertaining, well-written and hardly complimentary!
Oh I don't know DM, there is grudging admiration there, with only one oblique reference to the media led braying of both Suarez and Terry.

Good to see John Barnes speak up for Suarez, as he previously did for Terry.

I think the article sums up nicely the side-show to the main event. I suspect her reason for being there was because she/the paper expected the side-show to be the main event?

I thought it was a great game and played in the right spirit.
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The scene at the end was the perfect cliché of the never-say-die, heroic captain. One point in the bag and another seemingly made, John Terry sauntered towards the band of Blues, peeled off his shirt and waded bare-chested over the advertising hoardings to hand his Chelsea jersey to one of his disciples. As he walked away, he banged his fist on his heart.

In Planet Terry, the vignette represented how fond he is of a performance that reeks of his own determination to tackle adversity head on. But the problem with Planet Terry is that there is no place for the kind of subtlety that would better suit his current circumstances. As Liverpool discovered with their T-shirt idea, the rest of the world does not always appreciate bravado in times of controversy.

Mind you, keeping his head down has never been part of his approach during an eventful 13-year career. And besides, do the boos hurt? Do the chants cut deep? Does the microscope burn? It has never appeared that way, and few players are as efficient at erecting a force field that such stuff bounces off. What wounds John Terry is losing, conceding goals, straining to be half the player he was in his pomp.
I'm looking at key words and phrases like "cliche", "Planet Terry", "bravado" and, of course, the final sentence of the first few paragraphs quoted above. I see a lot of tongue in cheek, and I'll grant you a hint of grudging appreciation, but certainly no grovelling hero worship.

Anyway, I didn't think it was a great game at all, mainly because we didn't win and didn't play as well as we should have, but I did quite enjoy it and I agree that it was (perhaps surprisingly) played in a very good spirit.

And in amongst the inevitable abuse of Terry, I had to have a laugh at the Chelsea fans chanting "Chelsea reject" at one of the best players on the pitch!
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dtaai-maai wrote:And in amongst the inevitable abuse of Terry, I had to have a laugh at the Chelsea fans chanting "Chelsea reject" at one of the best players on the pitch!
But the abuse wasn't really much, was it? And as the report says, it did fizzle out.

By the way, are you referring to Gallas or Parker?

Ashley Cole was voted man of the match.
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I was talking about Parker, but Gallas has been a good signing for Spurs. Past his 'best before' date, but great cover for our often injured defense. I bet you wish you could get him back! :laugh:
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Spurs v Chelsea. Quite exciting in an under-13 Sunday morning sort of way. Lots of huffing, puffing and running up and down with not a great deal of quality or shots on target. They will both have to do better if they want to stay in the top four. :twisted:
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Arcadian wrote: Quite exciting in an under-13 Sunday morning sort of way.
:laugh: :laugh: Damned by faint praise! :thumb:
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caller wrote:Both Suarez and Terry can claim all sorts of antecedents, black friends (many in JT's case)
Or a Grandfather in Suarez case.
caller wrote:And BaaBaa, the FA don't have to worry about culteral differences in Uruguay or whatever happens elsewhere, Suarez is playing in the UK and what counts is whats acceptable there, not anywhere else. On saying that:
Racists? Or just little Englander dinosaurs hanging the foreigner out to dry?

The FA disgust me to be honest.
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