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GroveHillWanderer wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:30 pmThat's only if they move too far forward off the line before the kick. Goalkeepers can move as much as they like from side to side - and even slightly forward, so long as at the moment the kick is taken, they have at least part of one foot on, above or behind the line.

The full wording was given in an earlier post. It's quite clear.
Yes, fine. I was talking generally and nor was I quoting any law. Pete talked of star jumps. But at the time the penalty is taken they must be standing on the line, they can't jump up and down. That's really what I was getting at. If you look, they might wobble their body and all of that, hold their arms out to make the goal look smaller etc, but as the player starts their run-up, most keepers are still, focused and trying to calculate which was to go.
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caller wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:16 pm
GroveHillWanderer wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:30 pmThat's only if they move too far forward off the line before the kick. Goalkeepers can move as much as they like from side to side - and even slightly forward, so long as at the moment the kick is taken, they have at least part of one foot on, above or behind the line.

The full wording was given in an earlier post. It's quite clear.
Yes, fine. I was talking generally and nor was I quoting any law. Pete talked of star jumps. But at the time the penalty is taken they must be standing on the line, they can't jump up and down. That's really what I was getting at. If you look, they might wobble their body and all of that, hold their arms out to make the goal look smaller etc, but as the player starts their run-up, most keepers are still, focused and trying to calculate which was to go.
Again, not quite. Keepers can jump up and down. They don't have to be standing still when the kick is taken (and usually aren't). For instance, the star jumps that Pete references would be perfectly legal (so long as they don't touch the frame of the goal or the nets) in doing them.

The law makes allowance for the feet to be above the line, which means they could be completely in the air before the kick is taken, if they want. It's true they are usually focused when the player starts the run up but by the time it's actually taken they can be moving - and usually are.
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GroveHillWanderer wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:59 pm
caller wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:16 pm
GroveHillWanderer wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:30 pmThat's only if they move too far forward off the line before the kick. Goalkeepers can move as much as they like from side to side - and even slightly forward, so long as at the moment the kick is taken, they have at least part of one foot on, above or behind the line.

The full wording was given in an earlier post. It's quite clear.
Yes, fine. I was talking generally and nor was I quoting any law. Pete talked of star jumps. But at the time the penalty is taken they must be standing on the line, they can't jump up and down. That's really what I was getting at. If you look, they might wobble their body and all of that, hold their arms out to make the goal look smaller etc, but as the player starts their run-up, most keepers are still, focused and trying to calculate which was to go.
Again, not quite. Keepers can jump up and down. They don't have to be standing still when the kick is taken (and usually aren't). For instance, the star jumps that Pete references would be perfectly legal (so long as they don't touch the frame of the goal or the nets) in doing them.

The law makes allowance for the feet to be above the line, which means they could be completely in the air before the kick is taken, if they want. It's true they are usually focused when the player starts the run up but by the time it's actually taken they can be moving - and usually are.
If you do a Google search it says,

a goalkeeper cannot have both feet off the ground when a penalty is taken in football. The laws of the game state that the goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot touching, in line with, or behind the goal line when the penalty is taken. They can move along the line, but both feet must be on or behind it until the ball is kicked
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^ I wonder when VAR will get involved :wink:
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pharvey wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:16 pm ^ I wonder when VAR will get involved :wink:
Its not needed. In addition to what DB quotes, the relevant part of the law states:

The defending goalkeeper must remain on the goal line, facing the kicker, between the goalposts until the ball is kicked.
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I guess the VAR aspect would only come into play if there was any doubt over whether the goalie’s foot was on the line or not - from the refs viewpoint it might not always be clear?


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