Vaccines - Covid 19

[buksida]

Sinovac jabs safe for over 60s: study
Senior citizens have no need to worry about getting inoculated with Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine, as a study carried out in China has confirmed its suitability for use in adults over the age 60, said Sophon Mekhton, assistant to the Public Health Minister and chairman of the Covid-19 vaccine management sub-committee, yesterday.

The results of the independent study, Dr Sophon said, should dispel any remaining doubts about the safety of Sinovac jabs for senior citizens, which stemmed from a lack of empirical data for the age group after the vaccine was rolled out.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -60s-study

Well, there you have it - China has declared its own vaccine "safe" and Thailand has agreed with them after buying a shitload of doses that the population doesn't want/trust.

[HHTel]

a study carried out in China

That did it for me.12 deaths in HK and 56 around the world with the common factor being sinovac vaccine. It's not proved to be linked to sinovac but it does arouse suspicions. But in China there have been no deaths or even side effects in their millions and millions of doses.

I'll believe my 'gut'!

[sateeb]

The more I think about this and the more logistically feasible it becomes I think I'll look at getting vaccinated in another country that has vaccine choices and less likelihood of fake/copy/shite vaccines being administered.

[Big Boy]

Some advice for vaccine day https://www.thaipbsworld.com/what-to-do ... ccination/

[sateeb]

One would hope that you would be given that advice in any case.

[Big Boy]

Maybe, but I've read the official bumf that goes with having the AZ jab in the UK, and there are a few things mentioned in the link that isn't mentioned by AZ and vice versa. Ignore it if you must.

[PeteC]

I think caution is at the extreme as these vaccines are introduced. A year from now it will be like a normal flu jab, in and out in 5 minutes.

There are places in the US and I think Europe and the UK where pharmacies are now authorized to give Covid jabs. As time passes everything will be relaxed, although Thailand has a habit of making things complicated when they don't need to be.

[joelle]

Some advice for vaccine day https://www.thaipbsworld.com/what-to-do ... ccination/

Good to know, thanks for sharing
I thought brufen was ok and apparently it's not, so learning something every day!

[Big Boy]

Yes, thinking about it, we're counting down the days to my wife's jab. She had a phone call telling her to report to Hua Hin Hospital on the day. I doubt if I hadn't read the link, that any of the information would have filtered down to her. OK, she doesn't do alcohol, but the drinking of a litre of water sounds quite important.

She was told to take her ID card, but no mention of avoiding exercise for 2 days before (that won't be a problem either )

[GroveHillWanderer]

Report from the National News Bureau of Thailand (NNT).

BANGKOK (NNT) - AstraZeneca announced today that the samples from test batches of the COVID-19 vaccine made by Siam Bioscience had passed quality testing at AstraZeneca’s designated laboratories in Europe and in the U.S.

Mr. James Teague, Country President, AstraZeneca (Thailand) Ltd., said: “We have seen significant and promising progress in AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine development in Thailand during past weeks. First, the Thai Food and Drug Administration approved Siam Bioscience as a manufacturing facility for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca.

Last week, samples of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca made by Siam Bioscience passed the full tests and standard set by the Department of Medical Sciences (DMS) covering requirements such as chemical composition and safety. And today, I am happy to be able to inform you that the samples from test batches of the COVID-19 vaccine made by Siam Bioscience have passed quality testing at AstraZeneca’s designated laboratories in Europe and in the U.S.

This significant progress means that we are getting closer to delivering the first batch of the vaccine to the government of Thailand.”

Numerous safety tests and quality control measures are carried out at each step of manufacturing and distribution. This includes completing all steps in the quality assurance process, with each batch of vaccine undergoing more than 60 different quality control tests during its journey from manufacture to vaccination. To ensure consistent quality across supply chains, AstraZeneca has built an extensive analytical network globally.

[HHTel]

I note that those 'recommendations' come from the CCSA. Do they actually have any medical expertise or are they being advised by our head of public health? Centre for Covid19 Situation Administration. They are basically a front to inform the public.
My whole family have been vaccinated in the UK including my 96 year old mother. None have had any side effects apart from a little soreness at the injection point. They certainly weren't given the ridiculous (my daughter's word) advice. Some of it of course is common sense. My daughter was with her friends the night before and it certainly didn't stop her lunchtime bottle of wine after the injection. Her response to that advice was just laughter.

[PeteC]

The primary relationship is between the vaccine manufacturer and the recipient of the vaccine. You should read and follow the manufacturers pre-jab and post-jab recommendations. The middlemen are the organizations administering the vaccine who of course will try to protect themselves from liability by adding in other requirements, and I would imagine there is a document that you will need to sign agreeing to several things meant to protect these hospitals and those physically giving the shots.

[dtaai-maai]

The middlemen are the organizations administering the vaccine who of course will try to protect themselves from liability by adding in other requirements, and I would imagine there is a document that you will need to sign agreeing to several things meant to protect these hospitals and those physically giving the shots.

Not sure if you're talking about Thailand specifically, Pete, but I don't remember signing any disclaimer, or anything at all, here in the UK.

[HHTel]

AFAIK there were no disclaimers in the UK. But of course, Thailand is different. They will research the most difficult and complex route and then use that as a model.

[PeteC]

Yes, I'm talking about here. I've had to sign them before various medical procedures here and I imagine they are standard practice. They even required a signed document when my daughter was admitted for Dengue fever, and it was more inclusive than just agreeing to pay the bill.