Global Warming/Climate Change 2

[Arcadian]

The canary keeps singing but the miner is just not listening

I`ve got a bag for life, will I go to heaven?

[Frank Hovis]

If the canary is singing doesn't that mean everything is fine?
I'm no miner but I reckon a singing canary is a good thing, a dead canary might indicate trouble (or that Sylvester the Cat is also working down the mines)

[Big Boy]

I`ve got a bag for life, will I go to heaven?

Hey, Mrs BB brought hers from England with her, and actually confuses the hell out of people here when she uses it. I think we'll go to double heaven

[STEVE G]

July 2012: hottest month on record for contiguous United States
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/

"The average temperature for the contiguous U.S. during July was 77.6°F, 3.3°F above the 20th century average, marking the hottest July and the hottest month on record for the nation. The previous warmest July for the nation was July 1936 when the average U.S. temperature was 77.4°F. The warm July temperatures contributed to a record-warm first seven months of the year and the warmest 12-month period the nation has experienced since recordkeeping began in 1895."

[Arcadian]

I`ve got a bag for life, will I go to heaven?

Hey, Mrs BB brought hers from England with her, and actually confuses the hell out of people here when she uses it. I think we'll go to double heaven

Big Boy, we are a fine example to all of those Chinese industrial polluters, if they read our posts it would shame them into mending their ways. Or not.

[MrPlum]

The warmistas have adopted a new policy. Same as the old policy. Whatever the weather is doing, attribute it to 'climate change'.

I'm sorry. Really I am. I topped up my motosi with unleaded yesterday and look what happened in Africa..

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... CGgRMjLxLp

[STEVE G]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... CGgRMjLxLp
That is an unusual amount of precipitation for South Africa in August, perhaps the climate is changing!

[STEVE G]

Not a good time to be a polar bear!:

Rare wildfires threaten Canadian polar bear habitat
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012 ... polar-dens

[STEVE G]

Arctic sea ice likely to hit record low next week
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/08/2 ... T920120820

"What you're seeing is more open ocean than you're seeing ice," he said. "It just simply doesn't look like what a polar scientist expects the arctic to look like. It's wide open and the (ice) cap is very small. It's a visceral thing. You look at it and that just doesn't look like the Arctic Ocean any more."

Chinese vessel traverses Arctic Ocean for first time
http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,16176136,00.html

"Expedition leader Huigen Yang, head of Polar Research Institute of China, said that the route was largely free of ice."

"To our astonishment…most part of the Northern Sea Route is open,"

[STEVE G]

In climate landmark, Arctic ice melts to record low
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 2f364b.251

"The sea ice in the Arctic Ocean has melted to its smallest point ever in a milestone that may show that worst-case forecasts on climate change are coming true, US scientists said.

The extent of ice observed on Sunday broke a record set in 2007 and will likely melt further with several weeks of summer still to come, according to data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center and the NASA space agency."

[Frank Hovis]

What percentage of arctic ice has melted? Assuming 100% at maybe 1900 (or whatever date there is accurate data for)

[STEVE G]

What percentage of arctic ice has melted? Assuming 100% at maybe 1900 (or whatever date there is accurate data for)

It's over 60% by volume since the 1970's:

[Frank Hovis]

Does that mean the maximum increase in sea level from now until it's all melted is 40% of what has been recorded since 1970 uptil now?

[STEVE G]

Does that mean the maximum increase in sea level from now until it's all melted is 40% of what has been recorded since 1970 uptil now?

No, arctic sea ice is floating so it doesn't increase the sea level, that comes from ice sitting on land in such places as Antarctica and Greenland.

[Frank Hovis]

So the amount of ice covering the Arctic ocean has no bearing on sea levels, only the ice on Greenland (and other arctic land above sea level) is an issue as it would run into the sea, while the sea ice is already in the sea - is that right?
Do you have a similar graph for % of non-sea ice that has melted since the 70s?