Premier League 2023-24

[Lost]

Spurs in dire straights with injuries and suspensions. A few unfamiliar names among the subs, including:
Ashley Phillips, age 18, centre back (6' 4")
Alfie Dorrington, age 18, centre back
Jamie Donley, age 18, centre forward

The next few weeks might be quite interesting!

Yup

[Lost]

I didn't watch it, but Pop!!!, I think we all heard that bubble burst.

Looking through replies it appears forum members were quite pleased.

(Edit: Don't get carried away though lads. Five of our first eleven were out, all in the same week )

[thecolonel]

Where’s the Colonel - expected him to be praising his Everton side in their 3-2 win over Palace?

I watched every kick as it happens(or happened) yes very proud especially after the the very uncharacteristic gift by Tarkowski for their second goal

Cant help feeling that a points deduction is coming our way and that it'll be awfully close in the end



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[thecolonel]

Where’s the Colonel - expected him to be praising his Everton side in their 3-2 win over Palace?

I watched every kick as it happens(or happened) yes very proud especially after the the very uncharacteristic gift by Tarkowski for their second goal

Cant help feeling that a points deduction is coming our way and that it'll be awfully close in the end



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See above

Ten point deduction!

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[Dannie Boy]

I have no idea how justified this is, but it’s going to make survival very difficult - best of luck!!


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[pharvey]

I have no idea how justified this is, but it’s going to make survival very difficult - best of luck!!

I'd honestly think any investigation to any and all clubs in the EPL would lead to "justified penalties" - there's simply too much money and corruption in the sport (the former leading to the latter). Far too many believe they are above the law.

[EDIT] Of course Wendyball Football is not alone - Professional Boxing is a farce and the money involved in pretty much all American Sports is a complete joke. How on earth do you expect anything to be "clean" these days?

[Bamboo Grove]

Let's hope all teams that deserve the punishment, will get punished. Even if that meant the team I've supported for more than 50 years would be one of them. It's getting more and more ridiculous with all that money involved. But if only those who don't have the backing of the very rich will get punished, then it will be even more ridiculous.

[Dannie Boy]

Definitely other teams at risk including some of the biggest names

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... pions.html


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[pharvey]

Let's hope all teams that deserve the punishment, will get punished. Even if that meant the team I've supported for more than 50 years would be one of them. It's getting more and more ridiculous with all that money involved. But if only those who don't have the backing of the very rich will get punished, then it will be even more ridiculous.

Completely agree. "The" sport for me is Rugby Union, and is far and away from the type of money we talk in the likes of the EPL. Yet, clubs have been protected in the past - Bath RFC who I have supported for 40 years plus have avoided relegation on a couple of occasions since the sport turned professional and undeservedly so. Top clubs having a great deal of influence with the governing body even to the point where rules were changed purely to "Ringfence" the league (no relegation).
For me, Bath should have been relegated - I would remain a supporter, I always have. I lost a fair bit of respect to the powers that be then. I would hope that "true supporters" of any EPL or lower league teams would feel the same(?).

[pharvey]

Definitely other teams at risk including some of the biggest names

In the headline there is a clear "If"... Unfortunately, it's a massive "IF" when considering the clubs mentioned and the financial impact on the EPL/Broadcasters et al.

[Bamboo Grove]

But then again, it's not the football only (I know, this sort of belongs to another thread) but I'm slowly losing my interest in F1 where the payments and corruption are very much at the same level. The difference between football and F1 is that I've supported two football teams since my pre-teens but F1 I've only been following since my 20's, when Keke Rosberg was driving and I don't really have a team to support there. Just individuals.

[Bamboo Grove]

Seen elsewhere, don't know if this is true but, there's something in it. Much more serious than the Everton case.

Details of the Premier League Rules that Man City is alleged to have breached are as follows:
1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules 15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules 16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.
5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.
6 more Seasons are also yet to be investigated as Man City have refused to cooperate further .

[dtaai-maai]

If Man City end up being relegated they should be made to start with -20 points just to make promotion competitive!

[Dannie Boy]

Where’s the Colonel - expected him to be praising his Everton side in their 3-2 win over Palace?

I watched every kick as it happens(or happened) yes very proud especially after the the very uncharacteristic gift by Tarkowski for their second goal

Cant help feeling that a points deduction is coming our way and that it'll be awfully close in the end



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See above

Ten point deduction!

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Don’t fret Colonel, the Supercomputer predicts that you’re going to avoid relegation by the skin of your teeth!!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... e-31465577

[caller]

It looks like the spuds are now under re-investigation for a case from 2008, that they seem to have got away with, despite all the evidence of using an unlicensed agent, for which at the same time Luton were docked 10 points and a hefty fine. From The Times, who did the investigation about this matter.

Too long to cut and paste the whole article, so use the 12 foot ladder site instead. Edit, it appears that this is being messed around with, but I just got it to work for a Telegraph paywall story, a bit messy and I had to scroll down a lot, but the story was there in full.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jerm ... -pmpr37fgm