Avalon Development - Toledo Info

Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:40 am

Now then Now Then!

Im sure there will be disgruntled customers from each and every development as well as the ones who are more than happy with their purchases. It does seem some of these posts to be on a personal level rather than an obejective level the questions were asking for advise, not how good or bad a certain development is or isnt as the deal has been done

you cant please all the people all the time springs to mind, diferent people have diferent taste and budgets jsut because a development doesnt fit your critereia doesnt mean its bad and as said if you dont like it dont buy it ...

Post by **samlorsam** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:49 pm

The OP obviously has too much money! who buys a property without checking it out?
I have just spent 15 minutes looking at the website and my comments are.
*Do the mathematics.
*The cheap advertised prices in local newspapers do not include the land.
*The land prices (Summerland, Evalon) 4,250 baht/sq/m is high, maybe its in town or with some very nice views. location, location,location!
*Where are the developments? there are no maps on the site.
*The price for the houses:-If you calculate the house size/sq/m/baht the price is cheap, approximately 10,000 baht/sq/m, thats a building cost at the low end of the market, but as earlier posts have pointed out, you get what you pay for.
*Avalon are very good at marketing, it looks like you are getting a bargain.
*Avalon cannot be making any money from building, if you take into account the cost of infrastructure, such as roads, fitting water and electricity supplies e.t.c. But they are probably making a mint on the land.

So before buying anywhere in the world, do some simple maths and some comparisons with other projects, look for an engineer/surveyor to check out the drawings, planning permissions and build quality.

Post by **lomuamart** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:55 pm

It took me a good few years to decide to emigrate to here.
And I still don't know it all and never will. Still, I'm fairly happy ( things could be better, but then thay always can be).
As another poster said, if you're content with what you're getting, then who's to criticise that?
And mathematics? 2+2=4. I'm Einstein. Sorry being facetious, but really? It's up to them.
Edit. On this windy, chilly day, I'm listening to "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd. It seems apt to me. I'll put it on again

Post by **Guess** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:37 pm

lomuamart wrote:On this windy, chilly day, I'm listening to "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd. It seems apt to me. I'll put it on again

Haven't you got any John Martyn then?

Post by **JimmyGreaves** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:55 pm

I'm listening to Uriah Heep 'Very Heavy Very Humble'

Post by **lomuamart** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:00 pm

Guess wrote:
lomuamart wrote:On this windy, chilly day, I'm listening to "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd. It seems apt to me. I'll put it on again
Haven't you got any John Martyn then?

At least you spelt it right.

Post by **DawnHRD** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:39 pm

lomuamart wrote:I'm listening to "Wish You Were Here" by Pink Floyd. It seems apt to me. I'll put it on again

One of my all time favourite songs. Reminds me of my boyfriend. Put it on as often as you like!

Post by **Jim** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:07 pm

all together now:

So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell,
blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
And did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
Running over the same old ground.
What have we found? The same old fears.
Wish you were here.

makes the hairs on my neck stand up and brings tears to the eyes just reading it

Post by **Randy Cornhole** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:51 am

Post by **johnnyk** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:46 am

[quote="samlorsam"].... but as earlier posts have pointed out, you get what you pay for...
[quote]

Sam, unfortunately I don't think its always true whether in Thailand or anywhere else.
I saw several 5 million baht new homes in HH that had big cracks already in the bathroom walls, huge gaps in the "mitred" corners on both baseboards and crown mouldings as well as poor materials and plumbing fixtures.

Rather than slag them off publicly I simply chose not to buy.

Post by **Burger** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:36 am

Randy Cornhole wrote:

Rent

It's personal choice I guess, depends how long you're gonna stay etc, but many people like to buy a house for themselves rather than buying one for the their landlord

Burger

Post by **Randy Cornhole** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:51 am

I have my money invested in UK property's which I can legally own! and is always going to go up in value, yes it may dip from time to time but long term it is a good investment. Why would I buy a house here which I cannot 100% legally own. My rent is cheap and my house is great. So for me the only sensible option is - Rent.

Post by **Burger** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:56 am

Exactly my point, renting suits you as you have your money invested elsewhere.
You appeared to be suggesting to the people who want to invest in property here, to rent too.

A 30 year lease, which you do 100% legally own, is cheaper than renting for 30 years (including lost interest on capital paid up front).
But it depends on the individual, whether they want to stay here for 30 year or not.

Burger

Post by **lomuamart** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:11 pm

Randy Cornhole wrote:I have my money invested in UK property's which I can legally own! and is always going to go up in value, yes it may dip from time to time but long term it is a good investment. Why would I buy a house here which I cannot 100% legally own. My rent is cheap and my house is great. So for me the only sensible option is - Rent.

I'm the same as you, Randy. Over the past 8 years, my property in London has appreciated by approx. 1 million Baht a year. Plus I rent it out and that's the income the two of us need to live here - and save a bit as it's a business after all.
I'd like to own property here, but there's no way I can afford to do so unless I sell back home. Personally, that dosn't make sense for me at the moment. Maybe in the future, but that's still some time away.
Good luck to those who have made that move.

sargeant · Post by **sargeant** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:45 pm

There is another option if you have a Thai wife get her to purchase on a thai mortgage (costs you 10% deposit)your funds stay in the uk and the mortgage will over a few years work out cheaper than renting

It works for me