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Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm
by Lost
PeteC wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:03 pm
HHTel wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:45 pm There have been reports of injections being given too high in the arm.
Shoulder injury related to vaccine administration (SIRVA) is a rare complication of incorrect vaccine administration, when the vaccine is given too high into the shoulder joint. This can cause shoulder pain and restricted range of movement. Diagnoses include bursitis, tendinitis and rotator cuff tears.
All down to training.
Yes, there's several articles about injections into the shoulder "bursa sac" which is really a bad thing to do.
Yup. Me got this. Hoorah.

Very restricted movement. Pain. Awkward sleeps. Still waiting for my physiotherapy appointment. Can't even sue the NHS for this one.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:26 pm
by PET
Lost wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm
PeteC wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:03 pm
HHTel wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:45 pm There have been reports of injections being given too high in the arm.



All down to training.
Yes, there's several articles about injections into the shoulder "bursa sac" which is really a bad thing to do.
Yup. Me got this. Hoorah.

Very restricted movement. Pain. Awkward sleeps. Still waiting for my physiotherapy appointment. Can't even sue the NHS for this one.
Why not go private physiotherapy is not too expensive if you are in pain and waiting months?

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:19 pm
by Lost
PET wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:26 pm
Lost wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm
PeteC wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:03 pm

Yes, there's several articles about injections into the shoulder "bursa sac" which is really a bad thing to do.
Yup. Me got this. Hoorah.

Very restricted movement. Pain. Awkward sleeps. Still waiting for my physiotherapy appointment. Can't even sue the NHS for this one.
Why not go private physiotherapy is not too expensive if you are in pain and waiting months?
Not going hundreds, maybe thousand+, out of pocket because some donkey in the NHS couldn''t do a vaccine properly. :D

Fortunately, I don't do manual labour of any sort (couldn't if I wanted to). Can manage the pain.

:cheers:

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:01 am
by PeteC
I'm an hour away from 24 hours since this Pfizer shot #2 reaction began. I'm about 75% back to normal at the moment, but still lacking any real stamina. I wouldn't wish how I felt yesterday on my worst enemy. :cry:

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:02 am
by Lost
PET wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:26 pm
Lost wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:09 pm
PeteC wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:03 pm

Yes, there's several articles about injections into the shoulder "bursa sac" which is really a bad thing to do.
Yup. Me got this. Hoorah.

Very restricted movement. Pain. Awkward sleeps. Still waiting for my physiotherapy appointment. Can't even sue the NHS for this one.
Why not go private physiotherapy is not too expensive if you are in pain and waiting months?
Quick thanks, Pet. Your post triggered me to question my long waiting time. After following it up, I've now got an appointment end of next month. I'm expecting I'll need steroid injections which, if private, are £200+ a pop. That's not including any initial scans they'll do.

Any further injections I have, I'll be very vigilant in checking where they're sticking it. I simply didn't expect them to fk it up. Out of 105,000,000 covid jabs given there have been 75-80 reported cases of improper vaccinations leading to bursitis in the UK. That's 1-in-1.3 million(ish).

When I get those kind of odds on a scratchcard, I'm never that lucky 'one'. :mrgreen:

:cheers:

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:14 am
by Lost
PeteC wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:01 am I'm an hour away from 24 hours since this Pfizer shot #2 reaction began. I'm about 75% back to normal at the moment, but still lacking any real stamina. I wouldn't wish how I felt yesterday on my worst enemy. :cry:
Glad you're feeling better than yesterday, Pete. You'll be back to 100% soon.

:cheers:

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:46 am
by lindosfan1
PeteC wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:01 am I'm an hour away from 24 hours since this Pfizer shot #2 reaction began. I'm about 75% back to normal at the moment, but still lacking any real stamina. I wouldn't wish how I felt yesterday on my worst enemy. :cry:
Hope you're feeling better, I had the same injection, paracetomel cured it.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:41 am
by Lost
Came across this site. 12 pages of some folk suffering ongoing shoulder issues after an improper vaccination.

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/7 ... tion-sirva

Seems it might be a very under-reported issue. If they can't fix me, I'll most definitely be looking at legal avenues to sue for negligence. They better fkin fix it. :banghead:

As it stands, towards anyone in a low risk category like myself, I am an anti-vaxxer. Benefit doesn't outweigh the possible outcome.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:32 am
by PET
Lost wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:41 am Came across this site. 12 pages of some folk suffering ongoing shoulder issues after an improper vaccination.

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/7 ... tion-sirva

Seems it might be a very under-reported issue. If they can't fix me, I'll most definitely be looking at legal avenues to sue for negligence. They better fkin fix it. :banghead:

As it stands, towards anyone in a low risk category like myself, I am an anti-vaxxer. Benefit doesn't outweigh the possible outcome.
Why take the gloomy view, think positive and maybe it can be fixed without expensive drugs - you have not been for the appointment yet and do not know for sure what the problem is!

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:00 am
by Lost
PET wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:32 am
Lost wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:41 am Came across this site. 12 pages of some folk suffering ongoing shoulder issues after an improper vaccination.

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/7 ... tion-sirva

Seems it might be a very under-reported issue. If they can't fix me, I'll most definitely be looking at legal avenues to sue for negligence. They better fkin fix it. :banghead:

As it stands, towards anyone in a low risk category like myself, I am an anti-vaxxer. Benefit doesn't outweigh the possible outcome.
Why take the gloomy view, think positive and maybe it can be fixed without expensive drugs.
Very true. It's hard to not be grumpy when you've gone from peak physical fitness one week (hey, I'm still youngish), to struggling to put a t-shirt on the next. Optimism, Lost, optimism! :D
you have not been for the appointment yet and do not know for sure what the problem is!
I would be willing to bet my last pound on it being subdeltoid bursitis. I wasn't certain at first of course (somewhat due to it being under-reported) but after research... I'm 99.9%. It's not some coincidence that I lost shoulder movement a week after my jab. But... I'm not a doctor. So I shall wait till next month for them to tell me it's bursitis.

And then I'll come back to whine that I have bursitis from an improper vaccine once more. :thumb:

:cheers:

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:23 am
by nil
Florian runs a free diving school in Koh Tao…

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagou ... of-career/

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:52 am
by Lost
^^^

"My first thought and recommendation to Freedivers around the world is to choose a vaccine which is done the old fashion way like Sputnik, Sinovac, Sinopharm etc…instead of those new mRNA vaccines."

Chinese stuff may not be so shite after all. :laugh:

At least for Freedivers, anywho.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:00 pm
by handdrummer
I'll repost this:
When you get a vaccination, put your hand on your hip and that will lift your bursa higher. This will lessen the chances of the vaccine going into the bursa.

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:32 pm
by Big Boy
We have some friends whose 15 y.o. Farang son is home-schooled. Does anybody know how to get him included in the children's vaccine programme please?

Re: Vaccines - Covid 19

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:55 pm
by HHTel
Dr Opas said students in schools not administered by the Education Ministry, homeschoolers and foreign students would be vaccinated for free, but they had to contact the education office in their area.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -next-year