Vaccines - Covid 19

[handdrummer]

Why aren't levels of antibodies tested before giving any vaccine?

[Dannie Boy]

Why aren't levels of antibodies tested before giving any vaccine?

Can you imagine the time and effort it would take to test everybody?


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[HHTel]

Why aren't levels of antibodies tested before giving any vaccine?

Not sure the purpose of your question. However:

Antibody or serology tests look for antibodies in your blood that fight the virus that causes COVID-19.

Antibodies are proteins created by your immune system that help you fight off infections. They are made after you have been infected or have been vaccinated against an infection.
Vaccination is a safe, effective way to teach your body to create antibodies.
Antibodies can protect you from getting those infections for some period of time afterward. How long this protection lasts is different for each disease and each person.­
Antibody tests should generally not be used to diagnose a current infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. An antibody test may not show if you have a current infection because it can take 1 to 3 weeks after the infection for your body to make antibodies.

Effect of vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines teach your body to produce antibodies to fight infection from the virus that causes COVID-19. If you get an antibody test after receiving a vaccine, you might test positive by some (but not all) antibody tests. This depends on which type of antibody the specific test detects.
Antibody testing is not currently recommended to determine if you are immune to COVID-19 following COVID-19 vaccination. Antibody testing should also not be used to decide if someone needs to be vaccinated. CDC’s Interim Guidelines for COVID-19 Antibody Testing provide more information on how antibody testing should be used and interpreted.
Whether you test positive or negative for COVID-19 antibodies using an antibody test, you still should take steps, including getting vaccinated, to protect yourself and others.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... rview.html

[buksida]

MODERNA VACCINES WILL ARRIVE IN NOVEMBER, FIRM SAYS
The longest pre-order of your life may soon be over: Moderna’s mRNA vaccine will start arriving in Thailand by November following months of delay, a distributor representative said.

Zuellig Pharma, the company responsible for distribution of the Moderna vaccine, said the doses will arrive in weekly shipments, starting in November. The firm did not give any precise date. Despite previous pledges, the Moderna vaccines failed to be delivered to Thailand this month, a cause of frustration for many Thais who already pre-ordered the vaccines from private hospitals and clinics.

Speaking to the press, ZP Therapeutics Zuellig Pharma Thailand’s general manager apologized for the long wait and said they did everything in their power to get the vaccines into the country as fast as possible.

The general manager cited a rush of overwhelming demand, production delays and legal complication for the delay in vaccine deliveries. Zuellig Pharma was working with Moderna to find more production sources to speed up manufacturing and had looked for sources in Europe and the United States, the manager said.

Now they expect between 100,000 and 300,000 Moderna vaccines to be delivered to Thailand every week starting next month. The weekly shipments will continue until Zuellig Pharma delivers 1.9 million Moderna vaccines by the end of the fourth quarter of 2021, according to the company.

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/cri ... firm-says/

Any idea how to get on the list for this elusive elixir? Private hospitals are demanding deposits and are not offering a guarantee - if you can even register at all.

Edit: They're also not offering refunds for cancellations so are likely to make double the profit in those cases: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... b-delivery

[PeteC]

That's all Google has to offer at the moment. I didn't see any indication on either site as to "when"?

Scanning the articles I picked up that some are booking Moderna now as their booster shot (3rd shot) months from now.

https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/packages/moderna

https://www.sukumvithospital.com/conten ... anguage=en

[handdrummer]

Why aren't levels of antibodies tested before giving any vaccine?

Not sure the purpose of your question. However:

Antibody or serology tests look for antibodies in your blood that fight the virus that causes COVID-19.

Antibodies are proteins created by your immune system that help you fight off infections. They are made after you have been infected or have been vaccinated against an infection.
Vaccination is a safe, effective way to teach your body to create antibodies.
Antibodies can protect you from getting those infections for some period of time afterward. How long this protection lasts is different for each disease and each person.­
Antibody tests should generally not be used to diagnose a current infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. An antibody test may not show if you have a current infection because it can take 1 to 3 weeks after the infection for your body to make antibodies.

Effect of vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines teach your body to produce antibodies to fight infection from the virus that causes COVID-19. If you get an antibody test after receiving a vaccine, you might test positive by some (but not all) antibody tests. This depends on which type of antibody the specific test detects.
Antibody testing is not currently recommended to determine if you are immune to COVID-19 following COVID-19 vaccination. Antibody testing should also not be used to decide if someone needs to be vaccinated. CDC’s Interim Guidelines for COVID-19 Antibody Testing provide more information on how antibody testing should be used and interpreted.
Whether you test positive or negative for COVID-19 antibodies using an antibody test, you still should take steps, including getting vaccinated, to protect yourself and others.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... rview.html

Thank you, that answers my question and it's nice to have a civil answer.

[handdrummer]

Why aren't levels of antibodies tested before giving any vaccine?

Can you imagine the time and effort it would take to test everybody?


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Yes.

[Big Boy]

I see many vaccines have been moved from Hua Hin Hospital to Market Village Floor 3 (near the cinema).

Friends who moved their jabs from BCCT have been re-directed there for next week.

[PeteC]

70,000 expats sign for shots

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... -for-shots

Almost 70,000 foreign residents have registered for Covid-19 jabs through the expatvac website, according to the Foreign Ministry.

Vaccination appointments have so far been made for 47,794 expatriates, ministry spokesman Tanee Sangrat said.

The website was launched on Aug 1 by the Foreign Ministry and the Public Health Ministry for foreign residents of all age groups nationwide to register for their first dose.

The accumulated number of foreign residents registered as of Tuesday was 69,441, he said.

About 80% or 55,560 are under 60 years old.

Some, 6% (4,628) suffer from one of the seven high-risk health conditions and 0.4% (337) are pregnant women.

Filipinos topped the nationality table with 7,882 people.

According to Chawetsan Namwat, director of the Public Health Ministry's Health Hazard and Disease Control Division, the ministry has allocated enough doses for foreign residents who registered with the expatvac site.

"Our duty is to distribute vaccines according to the request by the Foreign Ministry so I encourage expatriates who have not yet received the vaccine to register on the website," he said.

[PeteC]

Thailand to cease Sinovac vaccine use when stocks end this month

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... this-month

Thailand will stop using the Covid-19 vaccine of China's Sinovac when its current stock finishes, a senior Public Health Ministry official said on Monday, having used the shot extensively in combination with Western-developed vaccines.

Thailand used over 31.5 million Sinovac doses since February, starting with two doses to frontline workers, high-risk groups and residents of Phuket, the holiday island that reopened to tourists in July in a pilot scheme.

In July, Thailand started inoculating people with Sinovac as a first dose followed by the Oxford University-developed AstraZeneca. Thailand was the first country to combine a Chinese and Western shots, a strategy its health officials said has proved effective.

"We expect to have distributed all Sinovac doses this week," said Dr Opas Karnkawinpong, the Department of Disease Control director-general, adding the programme will switch to combining the AstraZeneca vaccine with that made by Pfizer and BioNTech.

Thailand next year plans to buy 120 million Covid-19 vaccine doses in total and has already booked 60 million doses of AstraZeneca, a vaccine it manufactures locally.

Thailand has said it will only procure vaccines effective against new variants.

It has so far vaccinated 36% of the estimated 72 million people who live in Thailand and hopes to reach 70% by year-end.

The country is forging ahead with a quarantine-free reopening plan next month of 17 provinces to vaccinated arrivals from low risk countries. Included will be destinations like Pattaya, Hua Hin, Chiang Mai and Bangkok.

Thailand has recorded nearly 1.8 million cases and 18,336 fatalities overall, more than 98% in the past seven months.

[Big Boy]

Vaccines have moved to Market Village Car Par level 3, not 3rd floor outside cinema as many thought.

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[Big Boy]

^^^ Just been told, registration in car park, vaccine administered inside.

[Big Boy]

I've been informed by a French student of my son that they've all been given Moderna as a booster to their Johnson & Johnson. His was last Friday. Do we have any idea why it's not being shown?

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[hhinner]

Perhaps it's a French embassy initiative so doesn't get officially counted?

[PeteC]

Perhaps it's a French embassy initiative so doesn't get officially counted?

I've been tracking Moderna supplies here as the wife is signed up for it, and at the moment there is none in the country per all published info. If the French Embassy flew in their own vaccine, like they did with the Johnson & Johnson for their citizens, the above thought could be correct.