Coronavirus Precautions/News/Updates for Hua Hin/Prachuap

[HHTel]

Most countries around the world are testing for free. Even the US which has one of the most expensive healthcare systems in the world are testing for free.

People with mild conditions are encouraged not to be tested. Just let them wander about in the community infecting many more. Ridiculous.

Unbelievable Thailand!

Actually, that's the same policy as in the US and UK. In both those countries, people with mild symptoms are not eligible for testing.

Here are two examples of this:

A news release from the Los Angeles Department of Public Health this week advised doctors not to test those experiencing only mild respiratory symptoms unless “a diagnostic result will change clinical management or inform public health response.”

At about the same time, the New York City Department of Health directed all healthcare facilities to immediately stop testing non-hospitalized patients for Covid-19.

“At this point in the pandemic, demand for unnecessary testing is contributing to the rapidly diminishing supply of PPE and leading to a decreasing supply of swabs and viral transport media used to collect diagnostic specimens for Covid-19 testing,” a statement read.

My daughter works in the NHS in England. As she explained to me, the current NHS policy is not to test patients unless they are in serious enough condition to be hospitalised (as in New York).

Even health care workers who have had contact with confirmed coronavirus patients are not being tested.

Which seems crazy to me, but that's the policy. An NHS doctor complains about it here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... d-19-tests

That's quite a big part of the problem. The experts are saying "test, test, test" and it seems we're unable. It's already known that there are quite a number of people, mostly in the younger group, that are asymptomatic. These people have no symptoms, are completely unaware that they have the virus and are unwittingly spreading it to many more.
China will have had the same problems. Their solution was to completely lock down whole cities barring all movement. Ill or not, citizens were not allowed out and you could be arrested for not wearing a mask on the grounds that you may have the virus.
China is in the recovery stage, we hope. The danger is that based on historical data, there may be a second wave. Fingers crossed.
It's quite obvious that this spread would be much easier to control if everyone with the virus got ill.
Clever little bug!

[PET]

It is certain that all NHS front line staff are being provided with the Covid19 test and security clothing and lorries have been going to hospitals 24/7 since early last week. Health care workers followed next. The above Guardian (Typical) video is dated 16 March so way out of date, Yesterday in TV interview Jeremy Hunt clearly confirmed this together with many other respected persons

[HHTel]

It highlights how dangerous this virus is when a report of a week ago is considered 'way out of date'!

[caller]

It is certain that all NHS front line staff are being provided with the Covid19 test and security clothing and lorries have been going to hospitals 24/7 since early last week.

Jeremy Hunt is not in Government.

I hope the above is true, as my nephew, a GP in the Colchester area has had to self isolate as first, his 2 girls had the symptoms, although now recovered, but now his boy has. He works via video conferencing. He hasn't been tested.

Another nephew is married to a surgeon, whose specialist skills have been abandoned to help deal with the outbreak at a central London hospital. She has yet to be tested and is very angry with the Government about that.

[dtaai-maai]

It is certain that all NHS front line staff are being provided with the Covid19 test and security clothing

Certain?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51989700

Frontline NHS staff risk "cross infecting everybody" because they are not getting the recommended protective equipment, a consultant has warned.

The face mask, short gloves and apron worn by NHS staff is far short of the World Health Organization recommendations, Dr Lisa Anderson of St George's Hospital, London, said.

Former Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt told the government to "sort this out".

The PM has said work was continuing to get more personal protective equipment.

Dr Anderson, a consultant cardiologist, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the current situation "can't continue".

She said that the government had changed the rules to deviate from WHO guidelines, which currently recommend health staff wear a full gown and visor.

Since Monday, staff in the NHS only have to wear a simple face mask, short gloves and a pinafore apron, Dr Anderson said.

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Mr Hunt told the programme: "We are asking people to put their own lives at risk on the NHS frontline. We have seen the terrible scenes as to what is happening in Italy.

"It is absolutely heartbreaking when NHS frontline professionals don't have the equipment they need.

"I think the government has done a lot in the last week. I think they have unblocked the supply chains, but there is this question about whether it's the right equipment."

NHS staff told the BBC this week there was not enough protective gear and that not enough of them were being tested for the virus.

Mr Hunt said there were still "gaps on the frontline" and added that questions remained over whether doctors should wear full hazmat suits.

[MDMK]

Actually, that's the same policy as in the US and UK. In both those countries, people with mild symptoms are not eligible for testing.

My daughter works in the NHS in England. As she explained to me, the current NHS policy is not to test patients unless they are in serious enough condition to be hospitalised (as in New York).

Even health care workers who have had contact with confirmed coronavirus patients are not being tested.

exact same policy here in The Netherlands as well. Only if you're sick enough to be hospitalised do you get the test.

The different approach taken by countries makes the numbers totally meaningless. If you look at the numbers, it looks like Germany and Holland are in a similar position re the virus. Germany has 297 confirmed cases per million population, Holland has 245 confirmed cases per million population (UK comes in at 84 per million and Thailand 10 per million, just for a bit of reference), but if I stick to just Germany & Holland... as of the middle of last week, Holland was testing at a rate of 35 per million people, and Germany was testing at around 10 times that rate (I can't find the figures for Germany anymore, but it was 350 odd per million). The UK was at 387 per million population tested.

Germany (as of the end of last week) was testing everyone with any flu type symptoms whatsoever.
Holland (as of a fortnight now) are only testing people sick enough to be admitted to hospital.

So it stands to reason that while it appears that Covid19 is equally bad in The Netherlands & Germany, it actually must be much worse in NL. Just we're not testing many people, and Germany are testing widely, so the numbers remain (relatively) low in NL.

[GroveHillWanderer]

It is certain that all NHS front line staff are being provided with the Covid19 test and security clothing and lorries have been going to hospitals 24/7 since early last week. Health care workers followed next. The above Guardian (Typical) video is dated 16 March so way out of date, Yesterday in TV interview Jeremy Hunt clearly confirmed this together with many other respected persons

Sorry, but it's not certain at all - as I mentioned, my daughter works in an NHS hospital and sees potentially infected parents every day but as of yesterday when I last spoke to her, she still hadn't been able to get a test, despite having asked for one.

I also don't understand your dig at the Guardian above. This wasn't a opinion piece written by some hack, it was a personal statement from an NHS doctor recounting his and his wife's experiences (she is also a surgeon). Unless you think the doctor and his wife were lying, of course.

The exact same things they were saying, are confirmed by my daughter and @caller's nephew.

[PeteC]

The Department of Disease Control has released a list of 23 places it deems high-risk for Covid-19 in Bangkok, Nonthaburi, Nakhon Ratchasima, Khon Kaen, Ubon Ratchathani, Surin and Songkhla provinces. It wants people who had visited these places on the mentioned dates and times to inform officials.


https://www.nationthailand.com/premium/30384756

Bangkok

1. Night restaurants and entertainment venues (March 9-10);
2. Ratchadamnoen Boxing Stadium (March 6 to ;
3. Lumpinee Boxing Stadium (March 6 to ;
4. Ordination, Rachathiwas Temple (March 14);

Nonthaburi

5. Rajamangala University of Technology Suvarnabhumi (March 13);
6. The public van travelling between The Mall and Future Park Rangsit (March 8 to 20);
7. The bus, route: Prachachuen, Lumpinee Boxing Stadium, and Rajdamnoen (March 8 to 14);
8. Nonthaburi Boxing Stadium (March 8, from 6pm to 8pm);

Nakhon Ratchasima

9. Live boxing in Kutchik subdistrict (March 8, from 12am to 8pm);
10. Cockfight stadium in Non-Thai district (March 8, from 11am to 8pm);

Khon Kaen

11. Tawandang (March 8, from 12am to 2.30am, March 15, 12.59am and March 16, to 2am);
12. Nong Phai Lom Market (March 16, at 5pm)
13. Sod Jaeng Mookata Chill (March 12, at 9pm);
14. Mittraphap Tavern (March 7, from 12am to 3.30am);

Ubon Ratchathani

15. Chom Chan Restaurant (March 14);
16. U-Bar (March 13-14);
17. Ricco (March 12);
18. Mix Club (March 9);
19. Tawandang (March 9);

Surin

20. A funeral in Moo 3, Lamduan district (March 16, from 7pm to 11pm);
21. Chong Chom Market in Kap Choeng district (March 15, from 1pm to 2pm);

Songkhla

22. Jiranakorn Stadium in Hat Yai district (March 14-15, from 4pm to 7pm);
23. Minibus No 4 from Hat Yai Airport to Hat Yai Town (March 13 at 10am).

[thecolonel]

Talking of Virus Precautions.....(or Mod please move of appropriate)

I need health( or travel) insurance and naturally Id want to include coronavirus

Wondered if anyone had heard or seen anything in that regard. Maybe some of you are in the process of renewing or perhaps have checked whether you're covered or not?

I seem to recall being told there's an insurance broker in town(Hua Hin) called AA?? On Phetkasem Rd Ocean Side Close to Soi 65 on the upper floors....

Thanks in advance

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[Dannie Boy]

Talking of Virus Precautions.....(or Mod please move of appropriate)

I need health( or travel) insurance and naturally Id want to include coronavirus

Wondered if anyone had heard or seen anything in that regard. Maybe some of you are in the process of renewing or perhaps have checked whether you're covered or not?

I seem to recall being told there's an insurance broker in town(Hua Hin) called AA?? On Phetkasem Rd Ocean Side Close to Soi 65 on the upper floors....

Thanks in advance

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Yes that’s correct and as far as I’m aware, the best in the area for providing a wide range of insurance needs including travel insurance - contact them at Huahin@aainsure.net


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[thecolonel]

Talking of Virus Precautions.....(or Mod please move of appropriate)

I need health( or travel) insurance and naturally Id want to include coronavirus

Wondered if anyone had heard or seen anything in that regard. Maybe some of you are in the process of renewing or perhaps have checked whether you're covered or not?

I seem to recall being told there's an insurance broker in town(Hua Hin) called AA?? On Phetkasem Rd Ocean Side Close to Soi 65 on the upper floors....

Thanks in advance

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Yes that’s correct and as far as I’m aware, the best in the area for providing a wide range of insurance needs including travel insurance - contact them at Huahin@aainsure.net


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Thanks Dannie Boy I will contact them now

Appreciate any other feedback re insurance cover for COVID 19



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[HHTel]

Am I missing something. People are looking for health insurance to include Covid-19 but surely, most health insurances list exclusions, not inclusions.
To list what's included would amount to some bedtime reading.

[handdrummer]

Appreciate any other feedback re insurance cover for COVID 19

Most banks are offering a variety of policies ranging from 650 to 1500 bht for a year. Everything from testing coverage to hospitalization. K Bank is sold out.

[Big Boy]

Bluport closed from tomorrow:

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[thecolonel]

Am I missing something. People are looking for health insurance to include Covid-19 but surely, most health insurances list exclusions, not inclusions.
To list what's included would amount to some bedtime reading.

Try not to be pedantic and pick holes but rather to look at this the other way. I don't want to waste time with companies who won't cover Covid 19, at least in the first instance

So my question to the forum was.... does anyone know of/or are dealing with any insurance companies who'll still cover it. Because they're clearly in the minority as most are withdrawing it.

Just using the forum to seek help in trying to sort wheat from chaff, thats all.

Thanks

Ps I may have found one.... battleface.com. I'm 'battling' through the details but they will cover covid 19, insure if already travelling and theyll cover existing conditions but they have a few get out clauses on those aspects.

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