Digger wrote:'Eggy' to make a complete balls up by signing (presumably under Alan Curbishley's direction) a load of players on massive contracts, some of whom are renowned for being injury prone (Dyer, Bellamy, Parker), others who suddenly become injury prone (Upson, Neill, Quashie, Faubert),
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after your last passionate outburst with 0% fact this one is a wee bit better.You do not mention your star Freddie Lunnberg,whose wages would actually have paid your £5.5million fine.
West ham also cannot offer the FA arbitration panel £10 million ,they have to wait for the panel to decide in the weeks or months to come.Sheffield United want £30 million but its up to the panel
What you also did not mention in your passionate post last time was that the FA panel of 3 emminent QC;s,Not Judges.Those were the people the previous Prime minister used to use when he wanted an independent whitewash aka Hutton inquiry,decided that the west Ham chairman had misled the previous Premier league inquiry.For legal mispeak,when a QC states misled he actually means LIED.
University challenge question
Who was the last premier league club to be deducted 3 points
Starter for ten.What happened to this North eastern club at the end of the season.And an additinal 30 points what did this club do to suffer this penalty
was it
1 Bribe referee
2 Bribe opposing goalkeeper
3 play an under strength side after first having a telephone conversation with Parry and receiving tacit approval for their actions
As per my previous post West ham should have been demoted but I would have sent all four down and promoted four but the premier league chairman who run their own disciplinary committe did not want 4 upstarts in their league,thats worse than 3 teams up each season hoping that at least 2 will surely be relegated at the end of term,
Your assertions that West ham were less crap than Warnocks Sheffied united carries no weight whatsoever even if most posters on the board loved it.
If the premier chaimen had their way,at least 10 clubs would be dispatched to the lower regions,Celtic and Rangers would join and it would be 2 home 2 away games each season against each club.
Anyone who watched the unfancied Hull beat the mighty Gooners last week would have to agree with me.Its whats good for Football and the FA understood this in their FAIR arbitration.
Hey watch out Sheffied United may be dead and buried for a while but Wednesday are on the march again,Come on the Owls.
When I was 15 we had great clubs in the first Div like Wolves, Blackpool, Burnley even Northampton and Notts county.
Next up Plymouth and Sothampton,it is what makes the great game
Bite the bullet mate,you even got beaten 4 to 3 by the Spurs that season.Best game I have watched on TV after Stalteri broke and thrashed the ball past I believe Caroll in the 94 minute.
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Digger,
I thought this part of the thread had finished, but I have to reply to your comments which are not only 0% fact but border on 100% fiction!
First of all Llungberg did not get even close to the figure quoted, although this was widely reported as fact by the media, and it only takes a minute or so to see why WHU would not have given him such a payoff, because the figure quoted is equal to the remainder of his contract, so why on earth would we pay that much just to let him go? The figure given by reliable sources on the WH forums is about £2 million. I forgot him in my post but is another example of the bad signings made during that period.
Secondly, I didn't suggest or even think that WHU should offer the panel the money; Sheffield United were the ones who instigated all this and my suggestion was that they be offered the money to put an end to all this, thus no more deliberation by the panel, no more dragging this out longer than necessary. I'm not sure what your point about QC's and Judges is as i mentioned neither; however the West Ham Chairman has never been accused of either 'mispeak', 'lies' nor any other variation, but two of the Directors have been - Paul Aldridge, who is now at Manchester City, and Scott Duxbury, who I believe is going to be sacked as soon as this is all done (and should be).
I am well aware of what happened to Middlesbrough, as I am sure others on here are too, but why comparisons keep being made between that case, or the cases of Luton and other teams is beyond me, as the offences are completely different and carry different statutory punishments under either the Premier League or Football League rules. West Ham did not make the judgements or the punishments in any of those cases nor their own, so any beef anyone has is with the people who made those judgements; While points deduction was one of the options available for their 'crime' there were sound reasons why that didn't happen if you read the original judgement at the time, not least because it would have impacted on the playing performance and results of all the other teams, but who is to say that West Ham would have not also got the additional points needed to survive anyway? Instead of meekly surrendering to Sheffield United 3-0 (with Tevez in the team) we might have got a draw instead, or any number of other permutations in our remaining matches: this is what makes the arbitration panel's decision so ridiculous, as they are trying to predict what would have happened if Tevez hadn't been allowed to play for us. If it was a court of law, Sheffield United would have been thrown out on their ear (and in fact were - the High Court refused them permission to appeal the original Premier League judgement in the courts, which had also been upheld when they first appealed.)
Fortunately you do not sit on any PL or other footballing bodies as they rightly decided that these things should be decided on the pitch in this case, which they were and Sheffield United were relegated because of their own failings on the pitch - you know that green area where 22 players kick an inflated pigs bladder around. They obviously learned from past mistakes in that respect, as it did seem harsh on Middlesbrough, but then again they didn't field an under strength side, they failed to play the game at all, claiming that they didn't have enough fit players, which is not believable; if they had fielded their reserves or others they would not have been deducted points given their situation.
Your assessment of what the Premier League chairmen want to do does not sound like reality to me, although I believe there is a drive to gradually reduce the numbers to something like 16 but I don't think that all the PL clubs are in agreement. I have never liked the way money is affecting the game, but I can't really see any way to prevent it; however I think Sheffield United's way of handling their relegation is the worst possible example and precedent, as they claim that it's not about the money, but 'justice'. If it was about justice you would have thought that they would have accepted the independent ruling of the original judgement, or the independent ruling against their first appeal, or the ruling by the High Court that they had no legal basis to appeal there; instead they carried on until they could find someone who would agree with them, which just so happens to be under the FA's guidance, and ever since the PL was founded the two have been at loggerheads over the administration of football, and this has become a political battle between those two organisations - the FA are hoping that Scudamore etc will be discredited and possibly punished, giving the FA the upper hand.
I tell you what - lets go back in time and deduct 2 points from West Ham, shall we?
Rather than letting club bias get involved in this, have a careful think about the implications of the arbitration panel's ruling for football in general rather than this case specifically, because we will end up with league positions being decided by tribunals rather than on the pitch. Clubs should accept the rules and punishments for breaking those rules from the ruling body in question as long as their agreed procedures have been held to - end of story. The appeal and the High Court ruled that this is what happened with the Tevez case - I rest my case, m'lud.
