No I have a re-entry permit but was told when I got it that this is what I had to do when I was returning back to Thailand.
The officers name that told me this is Eat!
go the frigging and ask her, there is totally to much BS in this forum, everybody has a different answer.
I hear fines are 100 to 2000 baht , I was told 2000 baht by EAT (officers name)
Maybe it is just HH office trying to get pocket change from the frangs !!!!
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It's a bit rich to say that there's too much BS on this forum when you've had a page of posts trying to answer your OP.
The reason answers always differ in relation to visa questions is that the information given by different Imm offices and indeed different officers within the same office, differ as well. There is no consistency over here whatsoever.
I will reiterate, that I think the Imm officer in HH has got it wrong. The law here is that you must report to any Imm office in Thailand if you are staying CONTINUOUSLY for more than 90 days in the Kingdom. By leaving the country before this (whether on an extension with a re-entry permit or a multi-entry extension), you're not here for over 90 days and so don't have to report. Simple as that.
If, as in crazy88's situation you're exiting regularly before the 90 days is up, you're effectively using the extension as a multi-entry Non O visa (although, of course there's no need for him/her to get a new visa every year). This is what I've been doing on a multi-entry Non O this year and there's no need for me to report because I never stay here for longer than 90 days. Reporting of my address (which is effectively all that reporting is) is done when I re-enter the country and state it on the arrival/departure card.
I follow visa regulations very closely on other portals of information for Thailand and if there had been any change to reporting requirements, it would have been big news. There's been nothing. Indeed, people are still being advised that what I have stated is the case.
I do appreciate that the officer in HH has told you that you've got 24 hours to report, so I guess you'd better do so. If I were caught out by this, I would make sure I got a receipt for the fine, with it clearly stating the reason why it had been imposed. I'd then check it with main Imm at Soi Suan Plu.
The fine for late reporting is 2,000 Baht (as long as you've got to do so). Bearing in mind that you're allowed 7 days grace past the 90 days (as indicated in the Imm link I posted yesterday), having to check in within 24 hours of returning to Thailand would seem to run contrary to even this.
I think the Imm officer was getting mixed up with the fact that a hotel/guesthouse or even your landlord does have to report your presence to Imm within 24 hours of your staying somewhere. That's their responsibilty and they get fined if they don't do it. Heaven knows what happens if you own your own property, but I would think it's covered by entering your address on the arrival/departure card.
I can't help any more, except to say that I'm sure you've been misinformed, Pundi64.
The reason answers always differ in relation to visa questions is that the information given by different Imm offices and indeed different officers within the same office, differ as well. There is no consistency over here whatsoever.
I will reiterate, that I think the Imm officer in HH has got it wrong. The law here is that you must report to any Imm office in Thailand if you are staying CONTINUOUSLY for more than 90 days in the Kingdom. By leaving the country before this (whether on an extension with a re-entry permit or a multi-entry extension), you're not here for over 90 days and so don't have to report. Simple as that.
If, as in crazy88's situation you're exiting regularly before the 90 days is up, you're effectively using the extension as a multi-entry Non O visa (although, of course there's no need for him/her to get a new visa every year). This is what I've been doing on a multi-entry Non O this year and there's no need for me to report because I never stay here for longer than 90 days. Reporting of my address (which is effectively all that reporting is) is done when I re-enter the country and state it on the arrival/departure card.
I follow visa regulations very closely on other portals of information for Thailand and if there had been any change to reporting requirements, it would have been big news. There's been nothing. Indeed, people are still being advised that what I have stated is the case.
I do appreciate that the officer in HH has told you that you've got 24 hours to report, so I guess you'd better do so. If I were caught out by this, I would make sure I got a receipt for the fine, with it clearly stating the reason why it had been imposed. I'd then check it with main Imm at Soi Suan Plu.
The fine for late reporting is 2,000 Baht (as long as you've got to do so). Bearing in mind that you're allowed 7 days grace past the 90 days (as indicated in the Imm link I posted yesterday), having to check in within 24 hours of returning to Thailand would seem to run contrary to even this.
I think the Imm officer was getting mixed up with the fact that a hotel/guesthouse or even your landlord does have to report your presence to Imm within 24 hours of your staying somewhere. That's their responsibilty and they get fined if they don't do it. Heaven knows what happens if you own your own property, but I would think it's covered by entering your address on the arrival/departure card.
I can't help any more, except to say that I'm sure you've been misinformed, Pundi64.
Crazy88,
A lot of the visa regulations were changed last October, but those relating to retirement weren't. For the current requirements, see below, section 7.21
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/2n ... p606EN.pdf
A lot of the visa regulations were changed last October, but those relating to retirement weren't. For the current requirements, see below, section 7.21
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/2n ... p606EN.pdf
Re: Reporting in
If that`s the attitude you take with you to immigration, then I am not surprised that they have threatened to impose a fine on you! Get real mate, there is more free help on this forum than you will get from anyplace else around HUa Hin!Pundi64 wrote:......
go the frigging and ask her, there is totally to much BS in this forum, everybody has a different answer.
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I think there could be some confusion here regarding visas and visa extensions; if you have a multiple entry visa of any description then as lomu says you are allowed to come and go and stay in the kingdom for up to 90 days at a time for the life of the visa, and only 'reporting' to immigration by filling in the arrival/departure cards (commonly known as TM cards) when entering and leaving Thailand. However if someone has applied for and received an extension to their existing visa (and this is often done in the last few weeks of the original visas validity) then there is a reporting process done at their local immigration office, without the need to leave and re-enter the country, and as long as the extension application is made every year and satisfies the regulations this can be carried on ad infinitum without ever needing a new visa. This is what many retirees here do, and many folk married to a Thai as well. I don't know if business visas (non immigrant 'B') can be extended in the same way though, but i would assume that there is some process by which they can, with different criteria. All of these extensions though, will require the holder to obtain a re-entry permit from immigration (which can be single or multi entry) before travelling out of Thailand, otherwise the extension becomes null and void.crazy88 wrote:I have lived here on a non imm B visa for many years .(1 year multiple entry)
I leave the country at least every 2 months on average .
I,and more than 200 Farang staff ,over the years, have never been asked to report to immigration or get a re-entry permit before leaving .
If the law has changed, can anyone, who knows the FACTS, point us in the right direction ?
Whilst the fines are minimal, the stamps in your passport received for minor things can cause problems crossing some borders .They also do not help if you are applying for companies,work permits etc. in the future .I would rather avoid them .
Any rule changes on retirement visas would also be nice .
Thanks in advance for your help
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I have to agree with lomu that individual officers in the immigration department all over the country will interpret the various regulations very differently and very loosely and consequently different people will have different stories to tell about their experiences with visas. If you look through the threads relating to visas this crops up time and again, and is one of the major gripes about the visa rules - that they are not applied consistently; however it is typical of Thailand and its ways, and you will always get further with any officialdom here with a good attitude and a smile, rather than a demanding posture and a scowl. To be honest that's probably true everywhere really...
Absolutely, WL.
The reporting process is there for those with annual extensions to Non O/B visas and who stay continuously in Thailand for more than 90 days. As you said, if you consistently get these extensions, there's no need ever to leave The Kingdom again.
The magic number is always 90. Tourist visas (60 days on entry - for most - plus 30 days extension). Multi-entry Non O's (permitted to stay stamps for 90 days at a time). Single entry Non O (one entry of 90 days). Annual extensions to Non O/B visas (report every 90 days).
The thing is that reporting should only be necessary if you are continuously here for more than 90 days. If you go out for a holiday (and you've got a re-entry permit) before the 90 days is up, you should only need to report 90 days after your re-entry into Thailand - not within 24 hours.
This is what happened, quite correctly, to sarge in June this year.
The reporting process is there for those with annual extensions to Non O/B visas and who stay continuously in Thailand for more than 90 days. As you said, if you consistently get these extensions, there's no need ever to leave The Kingdom again.
The magic number is always 90. Tourist visas (60 days on entry - for most - plus 30 days extension). Multi-entry Non O's (permitted to stay stamps for 90 days at a time). Single entry Non O (one entry of 90 days). Annual extensions to Non O/B visas (report every 90 days).
The thing is that reporting should only be necessary if you are continuously here for more than 90 days. If you go out for a holiday (and you've got a re-entry permit) before the 90 days is up, you should only need to report 90 days after your re-entry into Thailand - not within 24 hours.
This is what happened, quite correctly, to sarge in June this year.
i can confirn what the OP is claiming, happened to me and everyone else who was in immigration office whilst i was. also told top bring house book for proof of residence.
fine was 800 baht for not reporting in 24hrs after entering the country.
crazy crazy crazy.
fine was 800 baht for not reporting in 24hrs after entering the country.
crazy crazy crazy.
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Well, I stand corrected. Did you get a receipt with an exact explanation of why the fine was imposed?
I've never heard of this anywhere in almost 10 years here. I'm certainly not doubting anything that anyone's been told or has happened to them, but I'd really like to see the regulation.
It's just daft. If after coming back here from abroad, you can't stay a couple of days in BKK, for instance, but have to run home to Mummy? I wonder what would happen if, the next day, you went to Soi Suan Plu to "report" as you were staying in BKK for a few days? Maybe they'd just laugh at you and say report to HH in 89 days?
This has got me going!!! I'm gonna try and get clarification from Suan Plu, or the Imm helpline in BKK and will "report" back.
I've never heard of this anywhere in almost 10 years here. I'm certainly not doubting anything that anyone's been told or has happened to them, but I'd really like to see the regulation.
It's just daft. If after coming back here from abroad, you can't stay a couple of days in BKK, for instance, but have to run home to Mummy? I wonder what would happen if, the next day, you went to Soi Suan Plu to "report" as you were staying in BKK for a few days? Maybe they'd just laugh at you and say report to HH in 89 days?
This has got me going!!! I'm gonna try and get clarification from Suan Plu, or the Imm helpline in BKK and will "report" back.
I am with you Lomu & WL i have only ever recieved kindness and help when i have been to immigration and only once had a problem when i questioned their rate of exchange and even then after slapping me down a tad she told mrs Sarge what to do and so now i SMKQ (shut mouth & keep quiet)
And i am no where near on first name terms with any immigration officer (after 10 years) 
And i am no where near on first name terms with any immigration officer (after 10 years)
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Sorry, but that's not clear. Are you saying that you have reported for 90 days as you arrive back in Thailand and fill out your arrival/departure card, or are you saying that you make an additional visit to HH Immigration to report within 24 hours of getting back into the country?nevets wrote:I have a retiament visa and a re-entry stamp and will be back this month after working away ,and will do 90day reporting as iall ways have from the day i arrive home.
Again. apologies, but I'm being stupid this morning.
additional report within 24 hours.
I know its stupid but thats what HH immigration are requiring at the moment.
Next time I am up there I will ask them how can this be done if say I want to spend a couple of days in Bangkok after a trip outside the country.
Bangkok immigration at the airport says no need to report in 24 hours, contrary to HH immigration.
I know its stupid but thats what HH immigration are requiring at the moment.
Next time I am up there I will ask them how can this be done if say I want to spend a couple of days in Bangkok after a trip outside the country.
Bangkok immigration at the airport says no need to report in 24 hours, contrary to HH immigration.
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This thread spooked me pretty badly. Bear with me while I explain.
I lived in HH until August, then moved back to Thailand (Nakhon Pathom, to be precise).
My last 90-day report was in HH on June 28. The next one was due on September 25, according to HH Immigration.
I left Thailand on September 19 for the US, returning on October 21.
I then saw all these posts about reporting 24 hours after arriving, so today I scurried off to Suan Phlu (the office for Nakhon Pathom) to report.
The Immigration Officer there told me graciously but most firmly that I did not have to report until January 18, 2008, 90 days after I entered the country.
Not much use to you people in HH, but just confirms that the HH Office is exercising its special prerogative.
I lived in HH until August, then moved back to Thailand (Nakhon Pathom, to be precise).
My last 90-day report was in HH on June 28. The next one was due on September 25, according to HH Immigration.
I left Thailand on September 19 for the US, returning on October 21.
I then saw all these posts about reporting 24 hours after arriving, so today I scurried off to Suan Phlu (the office for Nakhon Pathom) to report.
The Immigration Officer there told me graciously but most firmly that I did not have to report until January 18, 2008, 90 days after I entered the country.
Not much use to you people in HH, but just confirms that the HH Office is exercising its special prerogative.