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Re: xp3

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heretostay wrote:installed yesterday and lost internet connection. called Tot and they came out and fixed it,
confirming many people lost internet connection after installing.the software has a conflict with some broadband connections.

so be wary!!!

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:shock: :roll: considering people use Windows across the globe and only some users on TOT in Thailand have had problems I'd kind of suggest that it is an ... erm ... TOT problem ?! :idea:
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GUyen Abend to Y'All

I ahsd installed SP3 a couple of nights ago and so far so good no problems with my Internet provider so far. I;n currebntly using True highspeed 1MG Flattrate for 599 amonth.

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Re: xp3

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buksida wrote: ...............considering people use Windows across the globe and only some users on TOT in Thailand have had problems I'd kind of suggest that it is an ... erm ... TOT problem ?! :idea:
Exactly. If a system works and you do not do anything with your TCP/IP config and then it stops working, the problem is almost certainly with TOT/TT&T or whoever.

I see Norton has raised his ugly head again. There were known problems with SP3 and Norton Internet Security when SP3 was released. I don't know why people still use it (Norton). It is resource greedy, unreliable and they charge money for it. If you read reviews, check out who hosts the review site first. If you hunt around for real techie forums you will find much support for my anti Norton policy.

The other SP3 problems at release time have been identified and patched. Windows update should download them for you or you can get a release of SP3 with them included.

Caller's problem was almost certainly caused by an operating system malfunction that may have been introduced with SP3. About one week later I got exactly the same error myself. I was able to boot from another partition and restore the file from a backup so no real problem. Anyway the problem has not returned with the latest patches installed.

One good thing for sure with SP3 is that the machine speeds up considerably.
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And I use Norton! :(
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Installed SP3 on three Intel machines.
No problems and all run faster.
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caller wrote:And I use Norton! :(
so do i, there is no issue with norton - sp3. i have installed two different machines with no problems at all.
everyone has their opinions of what is best, problem is what is best for one machine isn't neccessarily best for a.n .other :D
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Unfortunately nothing is straight forward. There are always many versions and revisions of all software out in the market place. Identified problems may only apply to a specific revision clashing with a specific revision of something else.

PC and Internet security threats are ever moving goal posts. To counter attack you need to move with them especially after a major change such as SP2 to SP3. This months top antivirus product could easily be next months disk filler.

All singing, all dancing products should be avoided. It is worth the extra effort to find firewall, antivirus and anti malware packages that work together.

Firewalls

http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewa ... esults.php

Antivirus

There are as many reviews on anti virus as there is products. Problem is very few are independent. Avast is always up the top somewhere and the home version is free. It uses various different detection methods so can detect Viruses and other Malware.

Anti malware

Avast finds most but Anvir (free) is also very tenacious. Malware changes more rapidly than any threat so keep reviewing and change if necessary. The databases must be kept up to date with regular updates or they are useless.

EULAs (End User License Agreements)

A legal requirement to have it but the content can contain all sorts of nasties. If you are installing any software that is not mainstream or is free or is shareware then read it before pressing the agree button.

E.g EULA's text "the software can go online at any time and upload all data entered on you PC since the last upload." You normally wouldn't read this and go on to press "I Agree".

The site below contains the interesting, and maybe true, story of a guy who earned himself $1,000 just for reading the EULA. Rumor has it that the promise had been made 6 months before it was eventually claimed.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2243185,00.asp
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Re: norton

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redzonerocker wrote: there is no issue with norton - sp3.
Was this a quoter from Symantec?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/146228/s ... ption.html

http://windowssecrets.com/2008/05/29/02 ... ows-XP-SP3

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=13122

http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2008/05/2 ... t-install/

This is just the first 4 of thousand of papers on the concerns and known issues of Norton products with SP3. I hope nobody is suggesting a giant anti Norton conspiracy theory here.

I wouldn't have Norton but that is a matter of opinion based on the output of benchmarking. However if Norton and SP3 have compatibility issues in certain environments then one or the other (SP3 or Norton) has to go.

Microsoft will not be fixing any future problems with SP2, so if you stick with it, face the consequences.

As Norton gets very poor reviews across the board then it is a no contest for me.

As I have said before though, you cannot always trust the content of certain technical publications. Also it is always true in a conflict and absence of a suitable two way contract that both sides blame each other.

So my opinion of Norton is irrelevant anyway. The logic still stands.
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