Premier League 2011-2012

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redzonerocker wrote:
JimmyGreaves wrote:Happy Days :D
Enjoy them while they last :wink:
Yep that's what life is all about; days don't last forever.

Must say that we will need Bale and Defoe back for Thursdays game as lack of pace takes an important element out of our game. Get fit soon Aaron Lennon.

It's nice and makes a change looking down on Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool, long may it last!
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JimmyGreaves wrote:
redzonerocker wrote:
JimmyGreaves wrote:Happy Days :D
Enjoy them while they last :wink:
It's nice and makes a change looking down on Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool, long may it last!
Beware of the ARSE looking up at your ARSE.

Gooners are on the hunt mate :neener:
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Was RVP offside?

Think not, lucky Citeh :neener:
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jamesfrancis1 wrote:
JimmyGreaves wrote:
redzonerocker wrote:
Enjoy them while they last :wink:
It's nice and makes a change looking down on Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool, long may it last!
Beware of the ARSE looking up at your ARSE.

Gooners are on the hunt mate :neener:
Nah we just shit on ya to put it politely!
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Not very polite Jimmy Greaves :naughty:

Still let us wait until 22 December game.

Going down (in the EPL)?
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Never expected the punishment to be this harsh, eight matches. Now what about J. Terry?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16186556.stm
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Bamboo Grove wrote:Never expected the punishment to be this harsh, eight matches. Now what about J. Terry? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16186556.stm
I've got no words, simply dumbstruck. I've already ranted continuously about these issues and it's not worth the effort any longer. One positive thing, perhaps we'll see Carroll come into his own over the period. Pete :cheers:
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Well it doesn't start until an appeal is lodged / heard, or the appeal period expires.

Its really hard to comment further without knowing the facts? If they're not published, it will all seem rather silly?

As for JT (matter with CPS), I raised this question before, if the FA have found evidence of racism, which appears the case(?), then will they now pass the evidence re: Suarez to the Police, or should they have done that before passing judgement?

Otherwise, we're dealing with double standards here - who is the arbiter, the FA policing football (generally incompetently), or the Police / judiciary for the rest of us mere mortals (and usually equally incompetently)?

Personally, I will reserve judgement until the details have been published.
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Blackburn is not doing well. Perhaps this quote taken off the BBC Live is part of the reason:

"I'm a Blackburn fan leaving at half-time. Lynch mob mentality not for me. Scared, frankly. Embarrassed by so-called 'support'. They bizarrely think the anti-Kean chants don't affect the players. That's not a home game atmosphere for the biggest match of the season." Sad really. Pete :cheers:


EDIT: and more....."It's a shame that even that Steven N'Zonzi chance was met with vociferous shouts of 'Kean out'. It's genuinely difficult to see how he can carry on here to be totally honest.

"I'd love it, just love it, if Blackburn win now! Nobody deserves abuse like that, what kind of fans are these!?"
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Wolves-Norwich draw at 2-2. Good match but yet again, not good for my IKTS. :laugh: Wolves had the chances though but couldn't get it done. Pete :cheers:
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General question.....who decides upon the amount of added time? Is it totally up to the referee from keeping track of injury time and other stoppage time and if so, how does he do it...with a second stop watch? If not totally his decision, who else is involved, linesmen, people upstairs? Sometimes it seems a bit arbitrary to me. Pete :cheers:
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Blackburn - Bolton 1-2. This may be the end for Kean. News articles and TV reports will be interesting the next few days about that subject. One good outcome is that Yakubu is a prime candidate for my Fantasy League roster come transfer time. Pete :cheers:
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prcscct wrote:General question.....who decides upon the amount of added time? Is it totally up to the referee from keeping track of injury time and other stoppage time and if so, how does he do it...with a second stop watch? If not totally his decision, who else is involved, linesmen, people upstairs? Sometimes it seems a bit arbitrary to me. Pete :cheers:


Long time since I reffed Pete, but in my day, the ref and one lino would stop the watch as they felt fit, the other lino would not stop the watch. You would signal to the ref using fingers against black shorts when the ref was in proximity to indicate last 2 or whatever. I used to wear 2 watches and stop one.

Of course, now they are all wired up so they can all speak to each other! You also have the 4th official, in my day, that was a luxury for cup finals only!
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Duration and tie-breaking methods

A standard adult football match consists of two periods of 45 minutes each, known as halves. Each half runs continuously, meaning that the clock is not stopped when the ball is out of play. ... The referee is the official timekeeper for the match, and may make an allowance for time lost through substitutions, injured players requiring attention, or other stoppages. This added time is most commonly referred to as stoppage time or injury time... The duration of stoppage time is at the sole discretion of the referee. The referee alone signals the end of the match. In matches where a fourth official is appointed, toward the end of the half the referee signals how many minutes of stoppage time he intends to add. The fourth official then informs the players and spectators by holding up a board showing this number. The signalled stoppage time may be further extended by the referee.[46]

Added time was introduced because of an incident which happened in 1891 during a match between Stoke and Aston Villa. Trailing 1–0 and with just two minutes remaining, Stoke were awarded a penalty. Villa's goalkeeper kicked the ball out of the ground, and by the time the ball had been recovered, the 90 minutes had elapsed and the game was over.[47] The same law also stands that the duration of either half is extended until the penalty kick to be taken or retaken is completed, thus no game shall end with a penalty to be taken.[48]
I thought it was up to the 4th official, but according to Wiki (not always infallible, but it looks pretty authoritative here) it's entirely up to the ref, the 4th official just passes the info on to the fans.

I like the system in rugby, where the clock can be stopped by the ref, usually for a serious injury, and the game ends when play stops for the first time after the clock hits the 80 minutes. I reckon on average about 10 minutes is added to games. But there are far more genuine injuries in rugby, of course. However, in soccer that would just encourage more time-wasting and cheating.
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Very interesting statement from Liverpool re: Suarez v Evra -

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-n ... t-20-12-11
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