2 tier pricing for Thais

[margaretcarnes]

Maybe not a surprise to some, but a new one on me, and stinks of a different form of descriminatory pricing IMO.

Thai friend - now spends most of the year in the UK with farang husband. They return to HH for 'winter'. She goes to her usual Doc in HH for a routine test - which before has cost 100 baht.
She unwittingly gives her married - and of course 'farang' name - and is charged 580 baht.

So it isn't only farang who suffer 2 tier pricing. I have known this happen in the past when a farang has gone into a hospital emergency room in the LOS with his Thai wife and the quote has immediately gone through the roof. But this lady in HH went in on her own. She is a Thai national.

Moral of the story is tell your Thai wives to use their maiden names!

[Johan]

Ask first if there is a double pricing, if so just go elsewhere.

[Super Joe]

Yeah ofcourse unscrupulous Thais out to make a buck will target Thais as well as foreigners imo Mags, just as people do the world over I would think. We're particularly good at it in the UK with rich Japs/A-rabs or perceived rich over poor. We also take it to another level which I'm not sure Thais stoop to when we fleece vulnerable pensioners!!

If we think its just cabbies, roofer & plumbers and not the likes of the medical profession, as in your example Mags, then we should try Harley Street on for size. Human nature.

Ask first if there is double pricing.

What do you expect the answer will be?

SJ

[Johan]

If the answer is yes just walk away as i do. No matter why they are charging more for farangs, if it's yes i'm not going to pay. I could understand if they charge for tourists as we do in France, but a charge for the color of your skin is not fair.

If they charge double price for any tourist, thai or farang it's fair and it's ok for me. If they charge only to farangs and farang wives is not fair.

[Big Boy]

If they charge double price for any tourist, thai or farang it's fair

Why? I have to go to work every day the same as any Thai person. Thais come to my country, and don't even get charged.

[Super Joe]

Why? I have to go to work every day the same as any Thai person. Thais come to my country, and don't even get charged.

Thais also go to your/my country and get discriminated against and exploited because of where they come from in the form of their salary, despite doing exactly the same job as you or me. Not to mention exploited in terms of general welfare and working conditions.

Obviously not all companies and obviously that does not excuse and other practices elsewhere. It is an example though that people are at it everywhere.

SJ

[Johan]

Yes but in fact thai people don't really care about discrimination. Westerners we do care about this, a lot.

[Big Boy]

Thais also go to your/my country and get discriminated against and exploited because of where they come from in the form of their salary, despite doing exactly the same job as you or me. Not to mention exploited in terms of general welfare and working conditions.

Really? I am aware of exploitation if they are illegals, and maybe a few opt for less than the going rate for cash in hand. Apart from that I'd really like to know where you are coming from.

In terms of general welfare/working conditions, I am not aware of any discrimination for legals.

If they're illegal, they deserve to be treated badly.

IMHO the balance swings well in favour of legal Thais in the UK when compared with legal Brits in Thailand. I can't think of any instance where a Thai would be asked to pay more than a Brit in the UK.

Am I walking around with rose tinted glasses on?

[Super Joe]

Thais also go to your/my country and get discriminated against and exploited because of where they come from in the form of their salary, despite doing exactly the same job as you or me. Not to mention exploited in terms of general welfare and working conditions.

Really? I am aware of exploitation if they are illegals, and maybe a few opt for less than the going rate for cash in hand. Apart from that I'd really like to know where you are coming from.

In terms of general welfare/working conditions, I am not aware of any discrimination for legals.

It's prevalent in the construction industry from small one-man-band contractors upto just about all the large companies I worked for Balfour Beatty, Crown House, Laing O'Roukes etc.

British care industry using foreign students as cheap labour - https://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/oct2 ... -o08.shtml
"Sometimes we had to work without pay when there was a party or other event. Every so often we ended the shift hours late although we were paid only for the shift. Manager and the proprietor considered us as slaves."

A high percentage of farang business owner over here (myself included) do not know or respect Thai labour laws for their employess, so a bit hypocritical when we complain about other unfair treatment imo. What goes around ....

Yes but in fact thai people don't really care about discrimination.

A few million red shirts may disagree with you.

SJ

[chopsticks]

Not many Thais working legally on UK building sites or in care homes though........

[Big Boy]

OK, I have to admit that I don't know of any Thais working in the UK construction industry, so I can't doubt what you are saying.

Reading your example, I don't feel an awful lot of sympathy. Students have always been on a lower pay band. I started work at 16, and did not achieve adult wages until I was 20 - what's new?

In most cases in your example they are earning more than the minimum wage. One person was complaining that they paid £150 a month for college fees - a bargain. How much would I have to pay for similar education in her country? If it's cheaper, why has she come to the UK? Of course, the streets are paved in gold She's a student, paying her way through college and still manages to send £200 home to her family - really hard done by.

[Johan]

Thais also go to your/my country and get discriminated against and exploited because of where they come from in the form of their salary, despite doing exactly the same job as you or me. Not to mention exploited in terms of general welfare and working conditions.

Really? I am aware of exploitation if they are illegals, and maybe a few opt for less than the going rate for cash in hand. Apart from that I'd really like to know where you are coming from.

In terms of general welfare/working conditions, I am not aware of any discrimination for legals.

It's prevalent in the construction industry from small one-man-band contractors upto just about all the large companies I worked for Balfour Beatty, Crown House, Laing O'Roukes etc.

British care industry using foreign students as cheap labour - https://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/oct2 ... -o08.shtml
"Sometimes we had to work without pay when there was a party or other event. Every so often we ended the shift hours late although we were paid only for the shift. Manager and the proprietor considered us as slaves."

A high percentage of farang business owner over here (myself included) do not know or respect Thai labour laws for their employess, so a bit hypocritical when we complain about other unfair treatment imo. What goes around ....

Yes but in fact thai people don't really care about discrimination.

A few million red shirts may disagree with you.

SJ

I'm not really aware of the red shirt and yellow shirt story, i just know they are all arround making troubles. Don't hesitate to tell me why they may disagree with me saying that thai people don't really care about discrimination.

Go anywhere and ask a thai guy if he care about discrimination, i'm sure he don't even know this word.

[Super Joe]

Not many Thais working legally on UK building sites or in care homes though........

So only a few Thais are discriminated against in the construction and care industries then. I only ever shagged one sheep but my mates still call me a ........

SJ

[Super Joe]

I'm not really aware of the red shirt and yellow shirt story

Yes I see that.

In most cases in your example they are earning more than the minimum wage.

But below what they are qualified to do, or not paid in full for work shifts carried out. It doesn't matter what your hourly rate is if you're being discriminated against.

SJ

[Big Boy]

But below what they are qualified to do, or not paid in full for work shifts carried out. It doesn't matter what your hourly rate is if you're being discriminated against.

SJ

There must be thousands of well qualified Brits also currently earning less than their qualifications should bring. The job market is in favour of the employer at the moment, with numerous people queuing for too few jobs. This is not 2 tier discrimination as per the OP, but market forces at work.