Why cannot the Authorities see what is coming?
In the Binta bar area, the streets are very narrow. There are now so many bars. These bars serve alcohol until 1 or 2 in the morning, and yet traffic is still allowed to flow along these narrow streets dodging alcohol induced pedestrians.
Why cant they follow suit of Pattaya, and Phuket?? After a certain hour, pedestrianise it?? Or do they wait until someone is killed? there have already been a few instances of near misses, that I know about.
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Even that doesn't make a difference. At least 20 people have been killed at two railroad crossings (two close friends of mine) and one intersection since I've been here and the crossings are still unguarded and the intersection still has no traffic control. Most times they don't even bother to cut the two meter high weeds blocking your view of oncoming trains at the crossings.Or do they wait until someone is killed?
My brain is like an Internet browser; 12 tabs are open and 5 of them are not responding, there's a GIF playing in an endless loop,... and where is that annoying music coming from?
Close to making too much sense there Copper123, can't have that! You'll get used to it all often appearing as nonesense. Change is always slow and most often resisted due to fear of the unknown, makes people uncomfortable. It is silly that they don't pedestrianise it but it would cost money, money that the "authorities" don't have because it's been grafted away and is probably being spent in massage parlours/karaoke bars/payments on expensive cars etc. Also trying to get all those that own businesses there to come to consentual agreement about it would be a fanciful dream. We are also drifting into the idea of them (authorities) having abstract thought about saftey conserns.
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spitfire,
While I agree with you, there is an alternative way of looking at this; if Bintabaht and surrounding streets were pedestrianised, either permanently or during certain hours, it could actually become more dangerous. At present, everyone knows that they are still roads used by traffic, mainly motorbikes, but if pedestrianised, then pedestrians would not take the same care as they do now, and as is seen on the roads, bikes (and some cars) go anywhere they want, in any direction they want, and I am yet to see the police do anything about it. Enforcement is the issue there, and so those streets would probably see more accidents as tourists expect to be able to walk safely while the traffic would carry on as if nothing had changed. There is no way of physically blocking access to motorbikes unfortunately, although it could be made more awkward. It would be interesting to know how the Walking Street area came to be in Pattaya and whether there are any problems there (or were when it was initially created). There are a couple of one way streets in Hua Hin (Poolsuk Road at the bottom of Bintabaht being one) and the bikes completely ignore this, as an example.
While I agree with you, there is an alternative way of looking at this; if Bintabaht and surrounding streets were pedestrianised, either permanently or during certain hours, it could actually become more dangerous. At present, everyone knows that they are still roads used by traffic, mainly motorbikes, but if pedestrianised, then pedestrians would not take the same care as they do now, and as is seen on the roads, bikes (and some cars) go anywhere they want, in any direction they want, and I am yet to see the police do anything about it. Enforcement is the issue there, and so those streets would probably see more accidents as tourists expect to be able to walk safely while the traffic would carry on as if nothing had changed. There is no way of physically blocking access to motorbikes unfortunately, although it could be made more awkward. It would be interesting to know how the Walking Street area came to be in Pattaya and whether there are any problems there (or were when it was initially created). There are a couple of one way streets in Hua Hin (Poolsuk Road at the bottom of Bintabaht being one) and the bikes completely ignore this, as an example.
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Jim,
People have been saying about the move out of town ever since I have been living here (2003) and probably long before that too; the only move of any note has been to the surrounding sois (Poolsuk, Selekam and Sarakam) with possibly Soi 80 (Sarawat) the only other area to have any girly type bars. Tourists of all nationalities will always be coming to the centre of the town, near to their accommodation, so that is where the bars will locate. Tourists will not travel far out of town for girly bars and the associated action, and if the authorities had really wanted to shut down Bintabaht the laws are there to allow them to do it and have been for a long time; the fact that they choose not to suggests that they don't have that big a problem with the location. Pedestrianising it or not makes no difference to the legitimacy of the area or of what it is used for, and I very much doubt either idea has even been considered where it matters.
People have been saying about the move out of town ever since I have been living here (2003) and probably long before that too; the only move of any note has been to the surrounding sois (Poolsuk, Selekam and Sarakam) with possibly Soi 80 (Sarawat) the only other area to have any girly type bars. Tourists of all nationalities will always be coming to the centre of the town, near to their accommodation, so that is where the bars will locate. Tourists will not travel far out of town for girly bars and the associated action, and if the authorities had really wanted to shut down Bintabaht the laws are there to allow them to do it and have been for a long time; the fact that they choose not to suggests that they don't have that big a problem with the location. Pedestrianising it or not makes no difference to the legitimacy of the area or of what it is used for, and I very much doubt either idea has even been considered where it matters.
Yes WL, enforcement would be, as always, were it goes south as we all know that Thailand is not short of laws etc, just the selective enforcement of it all.
BTW Jim or anyone , out of interest, where do you think "the action" is going to move to if it is not destined to be in the middle of town? Why?
BTW Jim or anyone , out of interest, where do you think "the action" is going to move to if it is not destined to be in the middle of town? Why?
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You can't have missed the Indians - they're the ones outside the tailors shops!telexs wrote:mat wrote:Wanderlust, i ignore it also since there are no signs saying it's a oneway street (at least, i don't see any). Maybe that would be a good start.
Arrows ??? what Arrows??? I didn't even see the Indians!
Telexs
OK, it was just my view!! I admit that the siting of one large international hotel and its integrated meat market means that there are large vested interests in the status quo. But with all the developments on the south side of town, it seems to me that the Soi 80 area is going to get more like Bintabaht over time, and that the trade ("action") will spread out a bit more.
I keep hoping we're going to get some "action" in Bo Fai...
I keep hoping we're going to get some "action" in Bo Fai...
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